Here's why I'll never buy anything from VMP
 

...until they fire this *******.
the guy knows his stuff but the idea of any of my money going to this homophobic child makes my skin crawl.

https://youtu.be/k-KBnI6ptg4

iszat you in the Vid?

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::devil:

me??? Uh no.
this guy has been around a while. Every so often he posts something unbelievably stupid or mean spirited. There's one video where he was ranting about "inexperienced squids" or something at the drag strip and how people shouldn't show up there until they practiced on the street.

No joke. He might have pulled that one. I can't find it.

How'd you figure he was a VMP employee?

I'm with you, no question. We have constitutional protection against such garbage where I live.

I have zero tolerance personally for any sort of race, gender or sexuality prejudice in my work.

He talks about his company in the videos regularly.

https://youtu.be/71xKe7oJsIE

How about communicating with the company leadership directly. I'm a VMP customer myself, so, I'll join you if you like. I purchased an X4 and tunes from them for my Brembocar a year or so ago. Obviously no idea about any of this.

I think his videos (the few I watched) are stupid and poor attempts to be funny. However, I think he has the right make them, just as I have the right to not like them.

Certainly he has the right to make them but making them does not mean the behaviour is free of consequences. Freedom of speech doesn't guarantee that.

Didn't check the links, I'm on my phone and it isn't super easy.
Is it the YOLO DB dude?

Edit: Just hopped on my laptop, and yeah, it's him.
Hate the guy.
Had some funny videos a while ago, has gotten full of himself and is a complete sellout to whoever's balls he's tickling that particular month.
Yes, he's a VMP employee.
He was related to UPR for a while the first time he sold out over a free catch can or whatever crap that UPR gave him

Smith & Wesson or Ruger ?

Social justice warriors are everywhere nowadays, even on themustangsource.

It may or may not be worth contacting VMP directly.
They obviously know who this guy is. They can watch his videos any time. They're complicit. :dunno:

As I said above, the guy knows his stuff. I had watched a ton of his videos before I got to that one...often, he makes fun of strawmen (with that childish mocking voice) or talks in a way that indicates unbelievably puny world view and poor judgment...all of that is easy to roll your eyes and move on...but this one crossed the line.

I don't know about you guys but I LOVE the car hobby. They're one of the things that bring joy, friendships and fun to my life. I'm more than happy to take a stand when some mouthbreathing moron uses his platform to be hateful and vulgar...insulting not only a huge demographic who has been subject to prejudice forever... but also using that hatred against people who prefer V6 Mustangs. :confused:

Chances are he's an ok guy with a terribly ignorant and misguided sense of humor. People can learn and grow.

I'd bet that ALL OF US have made jokes that we regret...but the difference is that most of us grow up and learn to see the world through other peoples' eyes.

VMP, looking to you to keep this hobby positive and take a stand against hate speech. Those days are over. This is 2017...not 1967.

Your privilege is showing.

I thought this was a forum about Mustangs, not a social justice forum.
If you want to bankrupt a company because they will not fire an employee that has an opinion you don't agree with, then it kinda puts you on the same level as the employee with intolerance.
Lets just talk about cars, and leave the social justice crap someplace else.

I'll be sure to write a virtue signalling letter to vmp, once I am done writing my white privilege apology letters.

This is about a primary vendor to this community.

And...if you think that "intolerance for intolerance" is the same thing, you're a ****** idiot. Please tell me I got you wrong on that.

What are you saying here? Your sarcasm has completely drowned out your message.

Take your politically correct nonsense to Reddit and be triggered elsewhere.

If it's not clear, this discussion isn't for you. It's intended for people who give a **** about the kind of world we live in and might want to allocate their hard earned/hobby money elsewhere.

You're obviously not bothered by a blathering bigot, nobody is trying to make you care...so maybe just leave?

My, you catch on quick. And yes, it is intolerance for intolerance, and your proving the point.

Just curious,............what do you mean by "privilege"?

The thing is, VMP now has a high-profile employee that likes to make very-public questionable videos, many of which are not funny, but rather insulting.
This shows poorly on VMP and the type of people they choose to associate with, and especially to put on their payroll to represent their company.
If you choose to ignore this and buy products from them anyway, then so be it, it's your option to do so.
There are obviously many that won't do that.
Regardless of which camp you're in, resorting to insults and put-downs toward the other "camp" is childish and certainly uncalled for.
Reminds me of all the political B.S. ... as soon as a Trump supporter doesn't like what somebody says, that person is automatically a "snowflake" or "libtard".
And really, there's enough political talk elsewhere, we don't need anymore of it on here, and I'm already sorry I brought it up.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/themust...3feaf480b2.jpg
Everyone's offended over everything these days :headexplode::panic::violin::crying:

LMAO!!!

This is what's wrong with America. Sensitive people having their feelings hurt and the silencing of others through censoring and legal action.

It's time for people to grow some balls and stop being offended. His MGW video was hilarious and frankly I am more likely to buy a VMP.

Well I will say this

At least this is in the right forum

I think the OP posted an informative, opinionated take on the situation as to let others know what's going on if they choose to take heed of it is completely up to the reader. As far as I can tell it's truthful obviously and for those that are concerned with topics such as this, they are now informed. And those that don't care can simply look if they wish and ignore it if they wish and move on.

Everyone thinks something is funny until the joke is on them eventually.

And yes there are many varying degrees of sensitivity in the world.

But personal attacks between members in this thread or any other will not be tolerated.

If you don't like it move along.

You might have noticed that the kind of behavior and communication that you're endorsing (i.e. naked bigotry) isn't allowed on this forum. Do you have a guess as to why that is? Think it over and get back to us...and no, it's not because forums like this one are overly sensitive or whatever.

If you have to ask, you're already enjoying it. Besides, based on the posts you've thanked here, I call BS on your "curiosity."

...Says the guy who is deeply offended by someone else's opinion. Get over yourself! Look what has you triggered, friend. I observed someone bringing the worst of 5th grade humor into my hobby and I spoke out and stated my opinion and it has sent you over the deep end. Talk about snowflakes.

BTW, I love that all it takes for you to open your wallet is someone being hateful and childish. I bet you're in wonderful financial shape. :rofl2:

So you're going to patronize them...nice. They offer some great stuff. Please let us know what you bought from them and prove that you're not just posturing here to look like a big shot. No, a sticker or an oil filter doesn't count...also, please ask them if your business would have been welcome if you had a different sexual orientation.

I'm thankful those are not your eyebrows.

It'd be interesting to see how this thread would have played out and what the responses would have been if this guy was doing a similar vid about black stereotypes.

Perhaps in blackface, speaking in an uneducated, ghetto slang dialect, pondering if they made a Mustang with a trunk big enough to haul a load of watermelons, or if the interior was stain resistant to fried chicken grease, and does the console have a holder for foodstamps.

Methinks the responses to this thread and the attitude toward the company he represents would be slightly different.

[QUOTE=MRGTX;7018810[B]]You might have noticed that the kind of behavior and communication that you're endorsing (i.e. naked bigotry) isn't allowed on this forum. [/B]Do you have a guess as to why that is? Think it over and get back to us...and no, it's not because forums like this one are overly sensitive or whatever.

Would you care to show where I have endorsed any bigotry?

**** STRAIGHT I AM!
I love it.

Awesome. You do you. Meanwhile, don't be pissy because other people want nothing to do with this company because of this.

Right...You'd hope it would be more obvious but would your example be worse? I don't think so.


[QUOTE=13GetThere;7018820]go read the post I quoted.
Did I get you wrong? If so, glad to hear it.

[QUOTE=MRGTX;7018834]Right...You'd hope it would be more obvious but would your example be worse? I don't think so.


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