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Unfortunately I haven't got any of the early second-gens (I love the '73 Super Duty), but I agree that those are some of the best 'Birds. One of the cars I have is the '79 Special Edition T/A 6.6 my dad "handed down" to me a couple years ago, another is an '89 Formula 350 I bought as a bit of a project car a couple years ago. I grew up in the 80s and liked the third-gens. Guess that was Knight Rider's fault.
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Originally posted by Red Star+April 20, 2005, 2:52 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red Star @ April 20, 2005, 2:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Umm, There's a V6 Mustang for those concerned with gas mileage. Ford planned on building more V6 Mustangs than V8s.
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On the way home, I stoped by local gas station and gas was $2.50 a gallon. Maybe that's why Chevy is going with 4-cyl instead of V8. If prices of gas keep going up the way they people won't be buying powerfull V8s no matter how good and cheap they are. Sales of Fords top Trucks and SUVs (F-Series, Explorer, Expedition) are already down (by a lot). I'm afraid something like that may even happen to Mustang in the next few years.
Maybe GM is right with whole Cobalt thing. Maybe Ford should focus more on Focus and other 4-cyl cars.
On the way home, I stoped by local gas station and gas was $2.50 a gallon. Maybe that's why Chevy is going with 4-cyl instead of V8. If prices of gas keep going up the way they people won't be buying powerfull V8s no matter how good and cheap they are. Sales of Fords top Trucks and SUVs (F-Series, Explorer, Expedition) are already down (by a lot). I'm afraid something like that may even happen to Mustang in the next few years.
Maybe GM is right with whole Cobalt thing. Maybe Ford should focus more on Focus and other 4-cyl cars.
Umm, There's a V6 Mustang for those concerned with gas mileage. Ford planned on building more V6 Mustangs than V8s.
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The V6 gets better gas mileage than that, thats what I get with my GT.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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Originally posted by holderca1+April 22, 2005, 1:06 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(holderca1 @ April 22, 2005, 1:06 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Red Star@April 22, 2005, 12:55 PM
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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If its +-3, then it could also be 14 mpg.
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Originally posted by Red Star+April 22, 2005, 2:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red Star @ April 22, 2005, 2:53 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
You just validated my point, it lists the GT as 17 mpg, and I believe thats +/- 3 so its possibe to get 20 mpg with a GT.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
You just validated my point, it lists the GT as 17 mpg, and I believe thats +/- 3 so its possibe to get 20 mpg with a GT.
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That has nothing to do with it being capable of getting 20 MPG, which you said is impossible.
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Originally posted by GMconvert+April 22, 2005, 1:14 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GMconvert @ April 22, 2005, 1:14 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Fordracing200@April 21, 2005, 8:38 PM
hey BJ whats the story behind your ride and user name?
hey BJ whats the story behind your ride and user name?
About a couple years after I got my T/A everything went to heck at Pontiac, and lately at GM in general; the axing of the F-body, the lacklustre (in my opinion) GTO, lousy designs and overpriced vehicles have all driven me away. That in addition to the fact that I've had nightmarish warranty service on my Trans Am thanks to several truly, truly awful Pontiac dealers in my area. Which is too bad because the sales experience I received was one of the best in my life.
When Ford unveiled the concept 2005 Mustang my jaw hit the floor. After being disappointed by the new GTO (while I liked the fit and finish, I was expecting it to look more aggressive, and when it did not, I was pretty bummed), the Mustang was exactly what I had hoped to see. I love the old Mustangs -- the first-gens were my first love, before Trans Ams -- and the '05 Stang really harkened back to those days. I was born to a primarily Ford family and have qualified for A-plan forever, guess it's time to go back to those roots. I guess it had been a little while in coming because for the past couple years (2001+) I had been seeing Mustangs on the road and really digging them, especially the Mach I. I loved the Mach.
So I chose the name "GMConvert." Cause I'm a convert from the General Motors camp.
I still love my old Firebirds -- I have three -- but I always need a new, exciting and totally kick-butt car for my daily driver, and as soon as I pay off the Mazda6 my wife is driving, that car is gonna be a Mustang. Ideally an S/E or a Shelby/Cobra.
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thanks for the life story, i am glad u r being so cool on our site, i had problems with superbluegoat, he complimented his GTO and i ........didnt, lol i am glad u are now here at this very FORD site, following the beloved Mustang. I dont like the Newer Trans ams, but they were powerful. I saw a real sweet 68 Firebird, yellow, big wheels in back, small in front, huge old school style cowl hood, it was LOUD too, i am pretty sure u would of loved it. I am all ford and my familys had Camaros and Mustangs and now hate camaros and love stangs, Dad says his camaro was too slow, and uncle just says they arent easy to sell and a modded lightning or stock Cobra could beat them. Do u have any pics of all your Birds?
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Originally posted by holderca1+April 22, 2005, 2:06 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(holderca1 @ April 22, 2005, 2:06 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Red Star@April 22, 2005, 12:55 PM
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the Gt should get 19 city and 25 highway from what i hear
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Originally posted by Fordracing200+April 22, 2005, 6:59 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fordracing200 @ April 22, 2005, 6:59 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
You just validated my point, it lists the GT as 17 mpg, and I believe thats +/- 3 so its possibe to get 20 mpg with a GT.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
You just validated my point, it lists the GT as 17 mpg, and I believe thats +/- 3 so its possibe to get 20 mpg with a GT.
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Its impossible for 4.6L Mustang to get that kind of mileage. My 3.8L Mustang can hardly get that kind of mileage (If I shift gears under 2,500 RPM and if I change air filter every 3,000 miles, which I do).
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Originally posted by Fordracing200@April 22, 2005, 7:56 PM
thanks for the life story, i am glad u r being so cool on our site, i had problems with superbluegoat, he complimented his GTO and i ........didnt, lol i am glad u are now here at this very FORD site, following the beloved Mustang. I dont like the Newer Trans ams, but they were powerful. I saw a real sweet 68 Firebird, yellow, big wheels in back, small in front, huge old school style cowl hood, it was LOUD too, i am pretty sure u would of loved it. I am all ford and my familys had Camaros and Mustangs and now hate camaros and love stangs, Dad says his camaro was too slow, and uncle just says they arent easy to sell and a modded lightning or stock Cobra could beat them. Do u have any pics of all your Birds?
thanks for the life story, i am glad u r being so cool on our site, i had problems with superbluegoat, he complimented his GTO and i ........didnt, lol i am glad u are now here at this very FORD site, following the beloved Mustang. I dont like the Newer Trans ams, but they were powerful. I saw a real sweet 68 Firebird, yellow, big wheels in back, small in front, huge old school style cowl hood, it was LOUD too, i am pretty sure u would of loved it. I am all ford and my familys had Camaros and Mustangs and now hate camaros and love stangs, Dad says his camaro was too slow, and uncle just says they arent easy to sell and a modded lightning or stock Cobra could beat them. Do u have any pics of all your Birds?
You can see some pictures of my Firebirds here, if you like: http://www.bjrowan.com/gallery/
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Originally posted by Red Star+April 22, 2005, 7:09 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red Star @ April 22, 2005, 7:09 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
You just validated my point, it lists the GT as 17 mpg, and I believe thats +/- 3 so its possibe to get 20 mpg with a GT.
the Gt should get 19 city and 25 highway from what i hear
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
You just validated my point, it lists the GT as 17 mpg, and I believe thats +/- 3 so its possibe to get 20 mpg with a GT.
the Gt should get 19 city and 25 highway from what i hear
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Well mine is getting 19.6 right now, I can take a picture of it if you want that states its getting 19.6. And thats all city driving, the max speed limit I see on my daily drive is 45 mph.
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BJ, I like your WS6, but i am ot a big GM fan, but u do a good job keeping your cars in good shape!
BJ, I like your WS6, but i am ot a big GM fan, but u do a good job keeping your cars in good shape!
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Everybody is hurting in SUV sales at the moment. From what I understand, GM is shutting down the Arlington, TX plant for 9 weeks because of slow SUV sales. (Arlington is one place where they make the Tahoe, Suburban and Avalanche). The real goofy thing is the employees will make 95% of normal pay for that time period. :S
Just curious...if fuel price is the big concern...where is GM's hybrids?
Just curious...if fuel price is the big concern...where is GM's hybrids?
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Originally posted by GhostTX@April 25, 2005, 4:03 PM
Just curious...if fuel price is the big concern...where is GM's hybrids?
Just curious...if fuel price is the big concern...where is GM's hybrids?
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Originally posted by holderca1+April 25, 2005, 9:41 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(holderca1 @ April 25, 2005, 9:41 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Well mine is getting 19.6 right now, I can take a picture of it if you want that states its getting 19.6. And thats all city driving, the max speed limit I see on my daily drive is 45 mph.
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Originally posted by Red Star@April 22, 2005, 7:09 PM
Its impossible for 4.6L Mustang to get that kind of mileage. My 3.8L Mustang can hardly get that kind of mileage (If I shift gears under 2,500 RPM and if I change air filter every 3,000 miles, which I do).
Originally posted by Fordracing200@April 22, 2005, 6:59 PM
the Gt should get 19 city and 25 highway from what i hear
Originally posted by holderca1@April 22, 2005, 2:06 PM
You just validated my point, it lists the GT as 17 mpg, and I believe thats +/- 3 so its possibe to get 20 mpg with a GT.
Originally posted by Red Star@April 22, 2005, 12:55 PM
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My 3.8L can't get better than 19-20 mph so its impossible for 4.6L to get same gas mileage.
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yah, my father got the smae with his 86 5.0HO 5 speed when he had 2.73 gears, the 3.73s lost 2mpg highway and stayed the same in the city
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BJ, I like your WS6, but i am ot a big GM fan, but u do a good job keeping your cars in good shape!
BJ, I like your WS6, but i am ot a big GM fan, but u do a good job keeping your cars in good shape!
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wow, looks like new awesome job!
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Originally posted by Red Star+April 25, 2005, 5:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red Star @ April 25, 2005, 5:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-GhostTX@April 25, 2005, 4:03 PM
Just curious...if fuel price is the big concern...where is GM's hybrids?
Just curious...if fuel price is the big concern...where is GM's hybrids?
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are u supposed to be joking?? those are the hunks of crap that GM thinks are trucks, a 2wd 80s dodge half ton sits as hig as a new silverado 4x4 sadly.....