Car doesn't turn off?
6/11/04, 10:19 PM
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A friend just asked me this, 96 Civic is the car:
When I turn the ignition to off, it doesn't turn of. I can pull out thekey too. I already replcaced the ingition switch and lcok and that didn't help.
Anyone have any ideas? I tried looking online but the only thing that I see is that it might be the starter solenoid, but that didn't make much sense to me.
When I turn the ignition to off, it doesn't turn of. I can pull out thekey too. I already replcaced the ingition switch and lcok and that didn't help.
6/11/04, 11:01 PM
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yea
put the thing in drive and put the brake to floor and put the gas to the floor. Preferabley automatic.
or
if its a manual put it in first gear and do this while holding down the clutch obiviously and then let go of the clutch extremely quick.
or
go into reverse fly backwards, slam that female dog into neutral, then rev the heck outta it, then keep revving and slam into drive. do this repeatedly until desired results. preferably automatic.
theres also the water in the gas tank trick. or mothballs into the gas tank. i heard sytrofoam does wonders when mixed with gas.
cut the belt to the alternator.
cut the fuel line.
drain the radiator fluid.
drain the oil.
put the thing in drive and put the brake to floor and put the gas to the floor. Preferabley automatic.
or
if its a manual put it in first gear and do this while holding down the clutch obiviously and then let go of the clutch extremely quick.
or
go into reverse fly backwards, slam that female dog into neutral, then rev the heck outta it, then keep revving and slam into drive. do this repeatedly until desired results. preferably automatic.
theres also the water in the gas tank trick. or mothballs into the gas tank. i heard sytrofoam does wonders when mixed with gas.
cut the belt to the alternator.
cut the fuel line.
drain the radiator fluid.
drain the oil.
6/12/04, 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@June 11, 2004, 9:22 PM
96 Civic is the car
96 Civic is the car
6/12/04, 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by twincamfxd@June 12, 2004, 4:03 AM
There should be a module at the base of the steering column. If the contacts go in this, the car wont shut off.
There should be a module at the base of the steering column. If the contacts go in this, the car wont shut off.
Edit: Yeah I realized that civic thing after, but it does need to be said. The car is as plain as it gets, so no "rice" jokes apply.
6/12/04, 07:43 AM
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Sounds to me like the contacts in the lock cylinder are stuck in a closed position.
I personally had this happen, however, my key wouldn't come out. New lock cylinder is my bet.
Hope this helps. :geek:
I personally had this happen, however, my key wouldn't come out. New lock cylinder is my bet.
Hope this helps. :geek:
6/12/04, 07:57 AM
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Well, if neither of those parts fix it, then a haynes manual would be next thing, and a quiet place. :geek: The only other thing I can think of, is ECU, which is where the signal for the ignition module originates.
Let us know how you make out.
The only other thing I can think of, is ECU, which is where the signal for the ignition module originates.Let us know how you make out.
6/12/04, 02:50 PM
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On my Jetta, the fan will stay on to cool the engine...could this be the problem. It still kinda sounds like the engine is on, but its just the fan, not actually the cylinders moving
6/12/04, 03:41 PM
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No, the engine is definetly on. Been replaced already:
ignition switch, ignition cylinder and lock, starter solenoid.
I have the steering wheel off right now, and I can see that the linkage/rod between the cylinder and the ignition switch doesn't seem to be moving when the key is turned. Anyone know what this rod is called?
ignition switch, ignition cylinder and lock, starter solenoid.
I have the steering wheel off right now, and I can see that the linkage/rod between the cylinder and the ignition switch doesn't seem to be moving when the key is turned. Anyone know what this rod is called?
6/12/04, 03:44 PM
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Does the car diesel after shutting it off, where the combustion chamber ignites the fuel mixture w/o spark energy? Rare on fuel injected cars. Just a suggestion though.
6/13/04, 07:02 PM
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Here's what happened in case any one runs into the same (or cares)
1) Ignition lock + cylinder broke, cylinder spins and goes out of position.
2) Because ignition lock is out of position, the ignition switch actuator linkage rod also pulls out of position. Said rod is two pieces, with a pin between the two. The pin falls out of position when the rod is out of position.
3) To re insert the pin between the two pieces of the linkage rod, the entire steering column must be removed, all the way down to the firewall.
4) Replace pin, replace column, put in new ignition lock, and everything is ready to go. Of course the battery is dead after having the doors open for two days working on it, but you can't win em all.
1) Ignition lock + cylinder broke, cylinder spins and goes out of position.
2) Because ignition lock is out of position, the ignition switch actuator linkage rod also pulls out of position. Said rod is two pieces, with a pin between the two. The pin falls out of position when the rod is out of position.
3) To re insert the pin between the two pieces of the linkage rod, the entire steering column must be removed, all the way down to the firewall.
4) Replace pin, replace column, put in new ignition lock, and everything is ready to go. Of course the battery is dead after having the doors open for two days working on it, but you can't win em all.
6/13/04, 07:51 PM
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The entire column had to come out??? That one heck of a job. What a PITA for a stinkin pin. I wonder how much the dealer would have taken, ...er I mean charged you (her) for that?I had my own fun replacing rear calipers on my lovely GM product.....4th time for this car. Next time it becomes target practice for a friend's pumpkin cannon...then I burn it.
