Camaro concept
1/11/06, 01:34 PM
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I see your point about the Mustang appealing to pretty much everyone, more so than the Camaro ever has.
But, if the Camaro does in fact get the LS2, no matter how many brands of CAI available, the Mustang will be no match for a ported and cammed Camaro.
Plus, with the GTO, CTS-V, C6, SSR, Trailblazer SS, and now the Camaro...I don't think the LS2 owner is exactly going to be disappointed with aftermarket support.
BUT, also like you said, Ford already HAS the Mustang, and its already making a profit--a good one. GM fanboys will be lucky to get their car, and if they do, GM wont profit from making it.
But, if the Camaro does in fact get the LS2, no matter how many brands of CAI available, the Mustang will be no match for a ported and cammed Camaro.
Plus, with the GTO, CTS-V, C6, SSR, Trailblazer SS, and now the Camaro...I don't think the LS2 owner is exactly going to be disappointed with aftermarket support.
BUT, also like you said, Ford already HAS the Mustang, and its already making a profit--a good one. GM fanboys will be lucky to get their car, and if they do, GM wont profit from making it.
1/11/06, 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by BC_Shelby+January 10, 2006, 6:17 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BC_Shelby @ January 10, 2006, 6:17 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>It's already been announced that GM is building it, based upon its strong showing at LA and Detroit (Inside Line: Camaro to see production in 2009).
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Actually it's still just a rumor -- "according to unofficial word from GM suppliers".
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On the other hand, if you READ THIS, you'll see that GM is only willing to go so far to fix its own problems as long as the boys on Mahogony Row don't have to suffer personally. If they're not prepared to take one for the team, then maybe they deserve to "take it" somewhere else. They're all still playing the blame game (including the UAW) rather than taking personal responsibility. Hey guys: if you ain't part of the solution, maybe you're part of the problem.
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It looks like the Camaro might happen, if GM's problems don't lead to the program being cut.
1/11/06, 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by korinwoodo@January 10, 2006, 6:43 PM
I think I've become one of the minority who actually LIKES it.
I think I've become one of the minority who actually LIKES it.
09 i should be midway thru college... two years after i'll probably be in need of something new (you know, make the II my "weekend" car lol) and by then this will (hopefully) be out, along with a challenger and a re-skinned 'stang.
i cant wait till i'm in a position to pick on lol. of course. heck maybe even a used 09 'maro...
but then again, if Ford designs the next stang after the 71+ bigbody stangs, or god bless, even the IIs, well then im going with a stang
1/11/06, 04:53 PM
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Yeah man I hear you, 2008 will be about the time I will be in the market as well. I might even venture to say, that I like this Camaro better than the Challenger. Maybe its because I have become slightly biased toward GM, or because the challenger is going to weigh four hundred thousand pounds, but I really like the look of it! When I saw it I was like coool, and then read down and everyone was like OMG its FRICKEN UGLY, and I was slightly surprised. But everyone has their own tastes and changable opionion on what other members say 
but hey, I'm not one of them.
but hey, I'm not one of them.
1/11/06, 04:56 PM
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:P lol
i know watcha mean
challenger looks great, but its not as WOW as this is, at least to me. and the fact that she put on a few pounds kinda turns me off
the age old adage applies:
no fat chicks
i'm also surprised ppl dont like it that much. i guess not everyone has as exquisite tastes as us few proud members
i know watcha mean
challenger looks great, but its not as WOW as this is, at least to me. and the fact that she put on a few pounds kinda turns me off
the age old adage applies:
no fat chicks
i'm also surprised ppl dont like it that much. i guess not everyone has as exquisite tastes as us few proud members
1/11/06, 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by future9er24@January 11, 2006, 6:59 PM
:P lol
i know watcha mean
challenger looks great, but its not as WOW as this is, at least to me. and the fact that she put on a few pounds kinda turns me off
the age old adage applies:
no fat chicks
i'm also surprised ppl dont like it that much. i guess not everyone has as exquisite tastes as us few proud members
:P lol
i know watcha mean
challenger looks great, but its not as WOW as this is, at least to me. and the fact that she put on a few pounds kinda turns me off
the age old adage applies:
no fat chicks
i'm also surprised ppl dont like it that much. i guess not everyone has as exquisite tastes as us few proud members
Oh and to all the changeable opinion members.Camaro=Sexy
Our list so far of the likers
1. Me
2. Arin
3. The Deviant One (that name rocks!)
4. ...
Who will give in next?
1/11/06, 05:45 PM
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Back in the day, the Camaro was a cool looking car, as were the Chevelles, Fairlanes, GTOs, Challengers, GTX, Road Runners etc.....
All of them were awsome looking back. But none of them were Mustangs. The Mustangs of the 60s to 1973 beat them all in looks. Though the Challenger and Camaro look pretty good, one thing remains, there not Mustangs.
Heck if it werent for the new 05 Mustangs looks, I would still be driving a Monte Carlo.
They "may" build new Challengers and Camaros. They may not too.
But in the end, it doesnt matter, because there not Mustangs.
All of them were awsome looking back. But none of them were Mustangs. The Mustangs of the 60s to 1973 beat them all in looks. Though the Challenger and Camaro look pretty good, one thing remains, there not Mustangs.
Heck if it werent for the new 05 Mustangs looks, I would still be driving a Monte Carlo.
They "may" build new Challengers and Camaros. They may not too.
But in the end, it doesnt matter, because there not Mustangs.
1/11/06, 06:53 PM
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Don't just assume you can slap a supercharger on any engine and have it survive...
How many LSx engines do you see with Forced Induction?
How many LSx engines do you see with Forced Induction?
They do have great engines and can throw them in these cars.
Forget not that its the whole package that sells... an engine in a box will only take you so far.
For all of these cars to succeed and to continue success you have to hit all the angles, which the mustang does.
It hits the Grocery Getters to the Enthusiaists... and does it at a very magic price point.
The Challenger may be a competitor to a certain level of mustang and pull some sales away, but if it is stricly a V8 with 400+ horsepower, it won't be cheap, and it won't be a large production.
The Camaro I'm guessing will be more like the mustang in that it'll have the economy versions as well as high power.
And while horsepower is nice, its not EVERYONES supreme goal....
Forget not that its the whole package that sells... an engine in a box will only take you so far.
For all of these cars to succeed and to continue success you have to hit all the angles, which the mustang does.
It hits the Grocery Getters to the Enthusiaists... and does it at a very magic price point.
The Challenger may be a competitor to a certain level of mustang and pull some sales away, but if it is stricly a V8 with 400+ horsepower, it won't be cheap, and it won't be a large production.
The Camaro I'm guessing will be more like the mustang in that it'll have the economy versions as well as high power.
And while horsepower is nice, its not EVERYONES supreme goal....
And the aftermarket is such a factor as well.
The Camaros might have been better stock because of displacement, but... the aftermarket was VERY friendly to the mustang...
The Camaros might have been better stock because of displacement, but... the aftermarket was VERY friendly to the mustang...
The Mustang no doubt has a lot of aftermarket success compared to the last gen f-bodies, but if there is a lot of hype for the LS2 and Hemi when these cars start rolling off the line, who knows, maybe the aftermarket might pamper them like they did with the 05 Stang.
Its great to see them compete again, but lets be realistic when we actually HAVE the 2 or 3 cars lined up and selling ...
1/11/06, 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by future9er24@January 11, 2006, 5:59 PM
:P lol
i know watcha mean
challenger looks great, but its not as WOW as this is, at least to me. and the fact that she put on a few pounds kinda turns me off
the age old adage applies:
no fat chicks
:P lol
i know watcha mean
challenger looks great, but its not as WOW as this is, at least to me. and the fact that she put on a few pounds kinda turns me off
the age old adage applies:
no fat chicks
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
i'm also surprised ppl dont like it that much. i guess not everyone has as exquisite tastes as us few proud members
1/11/06, 08:04 PM
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lol good point
also, i think Mr Mustang belongs on that list
so its
me
korinwindoo
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Mr Mustang
woo! five of us!! out ok what nearly 12K members? lol
also, i think Mr Mustang belongs on that list
so its
me
korinwindoo
deviant one
gottahaveit
Mr Mustang
woo! five of us!! out ok what nearly 12K members? lol
1/11/06, 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by future9er24@January 11, 2006, 10:07 PM
lol good point
also, i think Mr Mustang belongs on that list
so its
me
korinwindoo
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Mr Mustang
woo! five of us!! out ok what nearly 12K members? lol
lol good point
also, i think Mr Mustang belongs on that list
so its
me
korinwindoo
deviant one
gottahaveit
Mr Mustang
woo! five of us!! out ok what nearly 12K members? lol
0.0463%
Thats pretty good odds so far :P
1/11/06, 08:45 PM
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IMO: I think it's funny that in January 2006 people are picking the 2009 model year car they will be buying in mid 2008! :scratch:
The Mustang is here now - it's real and you can take it for a test drive. The GT500 will be arriving in lots later this year. Who knows what the comparison of the 2009 Mustang/Camaro/Challenger will be like in mid 2008 when you are ready to place an order…
Not trying to kill the party here but let's keep current model / future model hype in perspective.
The Mustang is here now - it's real and you can take it for a test drive. The GT500 will be arriving in lots later this year. Who knows what the comparison of the 2009 Mustang/Camaro/Challenger will be like in mid 2008 when you are ready to place an order…
Not trying to kill the party here but let's keep current model / future model hype in perspective.
1/11/06, 08:46 PM
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well the reason some of us mentioned that scenario is that we arent really ready to buy a car right now, but we might be at a later date. it nice to know that we'll have more options in a few years (when we're actually ready to buy)
1/11/06, 08:57 PM
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1/11/06, 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by 05Stang_WI@January 11, 2006, 9:48 PM
IMO: I think it's funny that in January 2006 people are picking the 2009 model year car they will be buying in mid 2008! :scratch:
The Mustang is here now - it's real and you can take it for a test drive. The GT500 will be arriving in lots later this year. Who knows what the comparison of the 2009 Mustang/Camaro/Challenger will be like in mid 2008 when you are ready to place an order…
Not trying to kill the party here but let's keep current model / future model hype in perspective.
IMO: I think it's funny that in January 2006 people are picking the 2009 model year car they will be buying in mid 2008! :scratch:
The Mustang is here now - it's real and you can take it for a test drive. The GT500 will be arriving in lots later this year. Who knows what the comparison of the 2009 Mustang/Camaro/Challenger will be like in mid 2008 when you are ready to place an order…
Not trying to kill the party here but let's keep current model / future model hype in perspective.
Like I said, no one is jumping ship yet, but if these cars do come out, they might just be another alternative to the Mustang. Not trying to argue with you at all...I still love Mustangs. :worship: