This car has sat for nearly 20 years. Imagine owning this incredible machine and never driving it. https://www.hemmings.com/listing/200...00-613826/sold

 

 

That's a great price!!!! Wow...

 

With 644 original miles, I think 77k is worth it in my honest opinion.

 

There are a few problems with a time capsule car these days.... the electronics can be problematic. Capacitors in the ECU have an expiration date....these fail and if the car sits and sits they can leak on to the mother board and destroy it. You already can't get replacement computers for these cars. I had a customer buy a 3000 mile '03 Mach 1 a number of years back and it had electronic bugs that caused the cluster to "-------" and some other quirks. 8 years ago I felt differently but I have a literal stack of 27 ECU's in my office that need repair simply due to their age. It's a shame to not drive these cars but there are a LOT of speculators out there who remember what happened with the Muscle cars and are trying to play the wait and cash in game but given the cost of these cars today, that's a long wait. The Mustangs of the 60's were used and abused, very few were put away as a time capsule compared to today which is what made them so valuable. The S197 cars today not only have the obvious discussed problem but HVAC actuators go bad, radios have capacitors, amplifiers in the stereo system, etc, etc. So much to have to go in and repair later.

 

Imagine Someone Stashing away a 2024 And 20 Years later Having to Deal With The Modules!

The Problem is So Much Worse As The Cars Become More & More Complex!

2024 Ford Mustang All Modules, That is a Lot Of Modules!



ABS {Antilock Brake Module}
ACM (audio front control module)
APIM (SYNC module)
BCM (body control module)
BCMB (body control module B)
BCMC (body control module C)
CCM (cruise control module)
DDM (driver door module)
DSM (driver front seat module)
DSP (audio digital signal processing module)
GWM (gateway module A)
HCM (headlamp control module)
HVAC (heating, ventilation and air conditioning)
IPC (instrument panel cluster)
IPMA (image processing module A)
LDCMA (Lighting Driver Control Module A)
LDCMB (Lighting Driver Control Module B)
MRCMA (movable roof control module A)
MRCMB (movable roof control module B)
OCSM (occupant classification system module)
PAM (parking assist control module)
PCM (powertrain control module)
PDM (passenger door module)
PSCM (power steering control module)
RCM (restraints control module)
RTM (radio transceiver module)
SCCM (steering column control module)
SODL (side obstacle detection control module LH)
SODR (side obstacle detection control module RH)
TCU (telematic control unit module)
VDM (vehicle dynamics control module)
WACM (wireless accessory charging module}

 

I just went through a ton fixing a 2017 GT350....a shop in VA installed a Hellion Twin Turbo kit on the car. I picked up the car because it wouldn't start, I noticed the car was full of water and my initial thoughts were that we had a leak at a piece of glass...spent HOURS searching, looking for evidence and testing. Finally found that the water intrusion was occurring at the firewall, right behind the driver valve cover there is a rubber plug and the shop that did the installation just sliced a long slit into the plug and ran the boost reference hose into the cabin at that point. Here's where the problem lies, that hose was directly under the cowl drain so every time it rained it would funnel water down the hose, through the slit and into the sound deadening mat on the firewall and then down into the carpet. As temperatures changed throughout the day the moisture was present in the cabin. These cars do NOT like any kind of moisture around the electronics, especially the smart junction box. It took months with calcium chloride to dry out the interior. At first this car not only would not run (no fuel pumps), the injector circuit and scavenger pump went live as soon as you connected the battery...the key could be located on the moon...didn't matter. After thoroughly drying the interior, that problem stopped but the car still would not start. Everything would communicate on the scanner except the fuel pumps. Traced wiring, cleaned connections and found that both fuel pump driver modules were bad. When unplugged you could see where moisture had collected, these are not weatherproof plugs. We replaced both driver modules and got the car fixed. Fortunately, there is no smell in the car from any moisture thanks to the calcium chloride containers I constantly changed out. None of this would have ever happened if that shop had not improperly run a hose through that grommet without sealing it (they should have put a round hole in it and sealed it rather than just cut a slit from top to bottom. But this is a warning on ALL the newer vehicles, especially 2005 and newer that moisture is potentially a huge problem if allowed in the cabin.

 

Wow!

What a Domino Effect!

I Can Remember Back in The Day Seeing Detailers get Crazy on Carpet Still in The Car with Pressure Washing and Then Cranking Up The Heater To Dry Out The Interior. That Would Really Be a Bad Idea These Days! Had a F-150 in The Shop Right Before I Retired Where The Guy Did The Carpet Trick and Then Just Rolled Up The Windows and Let Sit For a Few Weeks! It Had Numerous Issues After Simply Due To The Moisture. I Don't Remember if it Survived or Not. He Had Purchased at an Auction and Thought it Would Be an Easy Turn!

KC

 

Years ago we were all at a Dynojet doing some tuning and across the street at a car dealer, we watched the detail guy take a pressure washer to the interior of a Chevy truck.... Door panels, dash, carpet, seat...EVERYTHING! We couldn't believe our eyes!

 

Arguments sure are made here NOT to mod a car unless you do it yourself or really trust the person doing it. Nothing positive seems to occur once a car is modded improperly. or against the car's fundamental design. I'm glad I don't play that game. I keep all my cars stock for the most part.
Isn't anyone happy just leaving their car alone as it came from the factory? I read about so many Hemi Challengers being modded on the Dodge forum I belong to. I simply shake my head as the owners complain when something is amiss. Screwing with 500 HP engines or even a 700 HP Hellcat is just so strange to me unless you are into serious racing. Very few owners are so I don't 'get it'. I don't feel bad for them at all. They think they know better than the people who built it.

 

And I'm in the business of modding cars....sadly the honest and qualified guys are few and far between it seems. I have never had a car come into my shop that has been built correctly. I have a 67 Mustang currently here with a Terminator swap... and we all know I've done that before and this thing is a train wreck. It's like peeling back the layers of an onion with always finding something wrong. BUT, no... not everyone is happy with stock. With technology there is always an opportunity to improve on a vehicle in some way. Engineers can put together a nice package at times but they aren't always right either as they do not give an ounce of thought to serviceability or longevity for the most part. They are also restricted by the bean counters and other legal restrictions. It's 2026, the technology of 1967 is pretty darn primitive compared to today so if you could make an early Mustang more comfortable, more reliable with the classic looks, why not? But the challenge of who do you trust is a big one no matter where you are. I recently got an email from a guy who bought a 2006 Mustang in pieces, the guy working on it bailed and it's apart, has a supercharger, missing driveshaft, exhaust....and that's all I know so far. I've been here before with a 2004 Cobra brought to me in pieces. You cannot give an estimate on something like this and pretty much NO shop wants to touch it because things are and will be missing. This guy I'm sure felt he got a bargain but he has to pay someone to put it all back together and not just anyone can do that. I can but I really am not enthusiastic about it because I know what I'm facing and I have to tell this guy that it's a blank check kind of service...if I'm having to hunt for hardware or go find things, you are paying me to do that.

 

Exactly the reason I don't prefer all this electronic technology... Modules, relays just keep piling up year after year which just lead to more and more failures, it's no wonder there's so many recalls, and it's not just Ford, it's practically every automaker across the board.