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derynf 5/21/04 11:58 AM


Originally posted by Smoov Stang Lova@May. 21st, 2004, 10:39 AM
:nono:

I just got back in from lunch where I stopped by a dealership (Ted Britt Ford) here in the DC/VA/MD area, and was told that they didnt have any info on the '05 Stang and wouldnt until July. (???) I told the guy that I knew the order bank was open or would be opening on 5/24 and he again said...'come back in July'. I get back to work, and I have a mssg from another dealership in the area, and the guy is tellin me he has the order info, some new pics, interior/exterior color guides, and for me to come back up to see him today if possible, or give him a call...(shaking my head) Needless to say...guess you all know which dealership will be getting my business...If any of the info he has is anything new or something we havent already seen or talked about...I will scan & post or let you guys know what I hear...

Curious...Did you notice how much business (how many on the lot) they do in Mustangs?

Smoov Stang Lova 5/21/04 12:08 PM

:scratch:

Ted Britt had...

3 (GT's) 2 yellow one red (outside) red (convertible) in the showroom that I saw up in front of the dealership, not sure what was around back...

Saw a few others (4 I think) parked off to the side, but not sure what models they were, though one of them was a blue '04 Cobra...

derynf 5/21/04 12:11 PM


Originally posted by Smoov Stang Lova@May. 21st, 2004, 11:11 AM
:scratch:

Ted Britt had...

3 (GT's) 2 yellow one red (outside) red (convertible) in the showroom that I saw up in front of the dealership, not sure what was around back...

Saw a few others (4 I think) parked off to the side, but not sure what models they were, though one of them was a blue '04 Cobra...

Maybe you other dealership will have a larger selection which means they might do bigger business with ford for mustangs.

kevinb120 5/21/04 12:17 PM


Originally posted by Smoov Stang Lova@May. 21st, 2004, 12:39 PM
:nono:

I just got back in from lunch where I stopped by a dealership (Ted Britt Ford) here in the DC/VA/MD area, and was told that they didnt have any info on the '05 Stang and wouldnt until July. (???) I told the guy that I knew the order bank was open or would be opening on 5/24 and he again said...'come back in July'. I get back to work, and I have a mssg from another dealership in the area, and the guy is tellin me he has the order info, some new pics, interior/exterior color guides, and for me to come back up to see him today if possible, or give him a call...(shaking my head) Needless to say...guess you all know which dealership will be getting my business...If any of the info he has is anything new or something we havent already seen or talked about...I will scan & post or let you guys know what I hear...

I work at Ted Britt Ford..........you got sold by the other guy :rolleyes: The password is....."lay-down".....

kevinb120 5/21/04 12:21 PM


Originally posted by Smoov Stang Lova@May. 21st, 2004, 1:11 PM
:scratch:

Ted Britt had...

3 (GT's) 2 yellow one red (outside) red (convertible) in the showroom that I saw up in front of the dealership, not sure what was around back...

Saw a few others (4 I think) parked off to the side, but not sure what models they were, though one of them was a blue '04 Cobra...

we have 49 gt coupes and convertibles btw.........with more V6's then gts, i didnt bother to count. 50 more still due in....Whos more misinformed, the dealer, or the customer? Go ahead, "order" your car.

As for mustangs do the math: 500+ SVT dealers, 1000 Mystichromes made, we got 5... We also had 12 10th anniversary models last year. Oh and 4 007 T-birds.....

As for GT supercars, nearly 5000 Ford dealers, 1100 GT supercars, we have 2 bucked, most likely getting 3......

Here is #1 waiting in line to be built:

STK/ORD# 5P90R001 05 FORD GT FORD GT ON-ORDER
REF0TBF BODYSIZE I
EXT/INT CLR D3 MARK IV RED/ LB EBONY BLACK #CYL MPG
SERIAL# 1FAFP90SX5Y40(edit) LOCATION LIST PRICE
MFR STAT SUB TO PLANT SCHED DATE STAT DATE 05/14/2004
ORD
OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT
PKG 100A FORD GT
FORD GT

153 FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET 582 MCINTOSH AUDIOPHILE SINGLE CD
64H 18/19 BBS PAINTED FORGED ALUM 66R PAINTED BRAKE CALIPERS RED
97P PAINTED RACING STRIP

Smoov Stang Lova 5/21/04 12:22 PM

:unsure:

Sorry about that Kev...Wish I'd known thats where you were B4 I got there...*pout* that guy was really disrespectful...When I get ready to order, ill have to give you a call or stop by...

kevinb120 5/21/04 12:23 PM

its the new chantilly one I work at B)

Smoov Stang Lova 5/21/04 12:42 PM

Gothca !!

kevinb120 5/21/04 01:14 PM

I quicked checked mustang stock, the ones awaiting pdi or inspections are not listed. We are also in a panic about not having enough to show our customers:
1 45007 04 EVENING BLACK/MED PARCH CLOTH S $ 26665.00
2 40163 04 SONIC BLUE CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOT $ 25150.00
3 45008 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/MED PARCH CLOTH $ 25770.00
4 45009 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/MED PARCH CLOTH $ 25770.00
5 45015 04 REDFIRE CC/MED PARCH CLOTH SEAT $ 25770.00
6 45025 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/MED PARCH CLOTH $ 26665.00
7 C45038 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/MED PARCH CLOTH $ 26665.00
8 45097 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPHITE CL $ 25635.00
9 45118 04 EVENING BLACK/MED PARCH CLOTH S $ 26805.00
10 C45017 04 REDFIRE CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 26115.00
11 45199 04 DARK GREY CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 26255.00
12 45202 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/MED PARCH CLOTH $ 26255.00
13 45330 04 REDFIRE CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOTH B $ 26395.00
14 45317 04 AZURE BLUE/DARK CHARC LEATHER $ 31035.00
15 45325 04 DARK GREY CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOTH $ 26395.00
16 45337 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPH LEATH $ 26545.00
17 45338 04 REDFIRE CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 26545.00
18 45396 04 REDFIRE CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 27015.00
19 45360 04 EVENING BLACK/DK CHARCOAL LEATH $ 27015.00
1 45143 04 EVENING BLACK/DK CHARCOAL LEATH $ 30670.00
2 C45059 04 EVENING BLACK/DK CHARCOAL LEATH $ 30670.00
3 45174 04 TORCH RED CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 30695.00
4 45314 04 EVENING BLACK/MED PARCH LEATHER $ 31030.00
5 45313 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPH LEATH $ 30610.00
6 45315 04 REDFIRE CC/MED PARCH LEATHER BU $ 31030.00
7 45312 04 SONIC BLUE CC/MED PARCH CLOTH B $ 30015.00
8 45326 04 EVENING BLACK/DK CHARCOAL LEATH $ 31375.00
9 45357 04 REDFIRE CC/DARK CHARCOAL CLOTH $ 28640.00
10 45397 04 DARK GREY CC/DK CHARCOAL LEATHE $ 31845.00
11 45400 04 REDFIRE CC/DK CHARCOAL LEATHER $ 30350.00
12 45401 04 SILVER METALLIC/DK CHARCOAL LEA $ 33485.00
13 45402 04 SILVER METALLIC/DK CHARCOAL LEA $ 31375.00
14 45403 04 DARK GREY CC/DK CHARCOAL LEATHE $ 31905.00
1 35124 03 ZINC YELLOW CC DK CHAR LTHR SPRT BUCKETS $30710.00 TBC
2 45063 04 SONIC BLUE CC MED PARCH CLOTH BUCKETS $30195.00 TBC
3 45177 04 TORCH RED CC MED GRAPHITE CLOTH BUCKET $30075.00 TBC
4 C45113 04 EVENING BLACK DK CHARCOAL LEATHER BUCKT $30610.00 TBC
5 C45118 04 EVENING BLACK DK CHARCOAL LEATHER BUCKT $31375.00 TBC
6 C45117 04 OXFORD WHITE CC MED PARCH LEATHER BUCKETS $31030.00 TBC
7 C45150 04 SILVER METALLIC DK CHARCOAL LEATHER BUCKT $31510.00 TBC
1 C45003 04 ANNIVERSARY RED MED PARCH CLOTH SEATS $26665.00 TBC
2 C45019 04 EVENING BLACK DARK CHARCOAL CLOTH BUCKK $25965.00 TBC
3 45194 04 SONIC BLUE CC MED PARCH CLOTH SEATS $26255.00 TBC
4 C45116 04 DARK GREY CC MED GRAPHITE CLOTH BUCKET $26395.00 TBC
5 C45132 04 DARK GREY CC MED PARCH CLOTH SEATS $27015.00 TBC
6 C45143 04 DARK GREY CC DK CHARCOAL LEATHER BUCKT $26725.00 TBC
1 C45057 04 SILVER METALLIC MED GRAPH LEATHER BUCKETS $27355.00 TBC
2 45139 04 TORCH RED CC MED PARCH LEATHER BUCKETS $28165.00 TBC
3 C45071 04 REDFIRE CC MED GRAPH LEATHER BUCKETS $28165.00 MAIN
4 C45073 04 EVENING BLACK BLACK LEATHER BUCKET $27520.00 TBC
5 C45075 04 EVENING BLACK MED GRAPH LEATHER BUCKETS $27175.00 TBC
6 C45111 04 SILVER METALLIC MED GRAPH LEATHER BUCKETS $28285.00 TBC
7 C45112 04 TORCH RED CC MED PARCH LEATHER BUCKETS $26480.00 TBC
8 C45107 04 DARK GREY CC MED PARCH LEATHER BUCKETS $28450.00 TBC
9 C45110 04 EVENING BLACK BLACK LEATHER BUCKET $28285.00 TBC
10 C45119 04 SONIC BLUE CC MED GRAPH LEATHER BUCKETS $28450.00 TBC
11 C45120 04 SONIC BLUE CC MED PARCH LEATHER BUCKETS $27805.00 TBC
12 C45133 04 SONIC BLUE CC MED PARCH LEATHER BUCKETS $27200.00 TBC
1 45047 04 SONIC BLUE CC/MED PARCHMENT CLO $ 27260.00
2 45071 04 DARK GREY CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 27675.00
3 45108 04 EVENING BLACK/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 27520.00
4 45140 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPHITE CL $ 26760.00
5 45166 04 EVENING BLACK/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 27175.00
6 45197 04 DARK GREY CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 28165.00
7 45204 04 TORCH RED CC/MED PARCH LEATHER $ 27520.00
8 45205 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPH LEATH $ 27175.00
9 45206 04 DARK GREY CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 27175.00
10 45301 04 DARK GREY CC/BLACK LEATHER BUCK $ 27375.00
11 45306 04 DARK GREY CC/DARK CHARCOAL CLOT $ 27690.00
12 C45106 04 EVENING BLACK/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 26825.00
13 45309 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPH LEATH $ 26480.00
14 45305 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPH LEATH $ 26825.00
15 45311 04 DARK GREY CC/MED PARCH LEATHER $ 26825.00
16 45364 04 DARK GREY CC/MED PARCH LEATHER $ 28450.00
17 45329 04 TORCH RED CC/MED PARCH LEATHER $ 27805.00
18 45363 04 EVENING BLACK/BLACK LEATHER BUC $ 28450.00
19 45374 04 TORCH RED CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOTH $ 26605.00
20 45375 04 EVENING BLACK/BLACK LEATHER BUC $ 27200.00
21 45370 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPH LEATH $ 27805.00
22 45362 04 EVENING BLACK/BLACK LEATHER BUC $ 28450.00
1 45113 04 ANNIVERSARY RED/MED PARCH LEATH $ 22905.00
2 45328 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/DARK CHARCOAL C $ 20680.00
3 45341 04 SILVER METALLIC/DARK CHARCOAL C $ 21590.00
4 45342 04 REDFIRE CC/MED PARCHMENT CLOTH $ 21205.00
5 45336 04 EVENING BLACK/MED GRAPHITE CLOT $ 20410.00
6 45331 04 TORCH RED CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOTH $ 19590.00
7 45376 04 REDFIRE CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOTH B $ 19730.00
8 45356 04 SONIC BLUE CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOT $ 21050.00
9 45358 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPHITE CL $ 19590.00
10 45335 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/MED PARCHMENT C $ 20410.00
11 45373 04 TORCH RED CC/MED GRAPHITE CLOTH $ 19590.00
12 45378 04 REDFIRE CC/MED PARCHMENT CLOTH $ 22050.00
13 45361 04 OXFORD WHITE CC/MED GRAPHITE CL $ 18775.00
14 45372 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPHITE CL $ 19590.0
15 45389 04 DARK GREY CC/DARK CHARCOAL CLOT $ 20035.00
16 45377 04 TORCH RED CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 22645.00
17 45381 04 DARK GREY CC/BLACK LEATHER BUCK $ 22645.00
18 45392 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPHITE CL $ 21395.00
19 45382 04 SILVER METALLIC/MED GRAPH LEATH $ 22645.00
20 45391 04 EVENING BLACK/DARK CHARCOAL CLO $ 21395.00
1 45144 04 SILVER METALLIC/DK CHARCOAL LEA $ 40270.00
2 41337 04 REDFIRE CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER BU $ 40445.00
1 45264 04 TORCH RED CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 36065.00
2 45265 04 TORCH RED CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 36065.00
3 45272 04 EVENING BLACK/MED GRAPH LEATHER $ 36065.00
1 45324 04 SILVER METALLIC MED GRAPHITE CLOTH BUCKET $18490.00 AML
2 C45128 04 SONIC BLUE CC MED GRAPHITE CLOTH BUCKET $21050.00 TBC
3 C45130 04 EVENING BLACK DARK CHARCOAL CLOTH BUCKT $19590.00 TBC
4 C45136 04 EVENING BLACK MED GRAPHITE CLOTH BUCKET $19590.00 TBC
5 C45131 04 REDFIRE CC MED GRAPHITE CLOTH BUCKET $19590.00 TBC
1 45181 04 MYSTICHROME C.C BLACK/MYSTIC INSERT LEATH $45725.00 TBC
1 45065 04 TORCH RED CC MED GRAPH LEATHER BUCKETS $35895.00 TBC

That sucks for our normal inventory too :nice:

derynf 5/21/04 01:45 PM

2 41337 04 REDFIRE CC/MED GRAPH LEATHER BU $ 40445.00

What makes this one so expensive?

cyoda44 5/21/04 01:53 PM

Can you say Cobra!!!

kevinb120 5/21/04 02:21 PM

:nice:

BlackRiderX 5/21/04 02:47 PM

Kevin you going to take pics of the GT for us???

kevinb120 5/21/04 02:58 PM

you betcha, I will be so familiar with that car i will be able to sculpt it blindfolded.... :drool:

BlackRiderX 5/21/04 07:09 PM


Originally posted by kevinb120@May. 21st, 2004, 3:01 PM
you betcha, I will be so familiar with that car i will be able to sculpt it blindfolded.... :drool:
:banana: Thanks!

dave 02 gt 5/21/04 08:13 PM

wtg kev :P

GIZMOTOO 5/21/04 08:15 PM

I think the best way for an average guy to get an ordered car early in the production cycle would probably require the following:

(1) Order a highly optioned car with a $500 dollar deposit.

(2) Agree to pay MSRP.

(3) Order from a reputable, large volume dealer who moves a lot of Mustangs.

Badandy 5/21/04 08:26 PM

Hey Kevin.


I heard a rumor and I was wondering if you could could either repudiate or validate it.


I heard that it is possible that not all the options (like the IUP) package might not be available at launch date.

True or not True?

kevinb120 5/21/04 08:27 PM

You just have to be truly serious and willing to wait.

Case in point, The 05 Escape has been out for two months. There were tiny batches of fwd limiteds and xlts made. The only Limited FWDs that are on lots have black interiors(and only 4 in the area at that). We do not have one in stock, nor are ANY of our 60 ordered ones in production yet. All of these orders were placed months ago. There are less then 5 AWD limiteds with black interiors in the area. There are next to 0 manual XLS's out yet, we were force fed one we never ordered on the first truck, and none of the manual XLS 4WD's have changed status since the day they were ordered by us. there are only 5 norsea blue units within a 100 mile radius-we have yet to see one in ANY configuration(20 ordered various styles) This vehicle is produced in nearly identical numbers to the next Mustang. There were only 5 retail orders placed for them before release at the dealer. It will be luck of the draw no matter how or when you order it. We DX out one in 3 sales of them(we can hardly keep them on the lot, I sold 3 this past week, and one more tonight for pickup in the morning-yes its coming from another dealer).

You may be better off chasing down units as they are made like we do now with the Escape, as long as you swap the same car type, most dealers could care less about which vehicles they have in stock as long as they have something. With a low variety/configuration count, most likely 2 or 3 dead ringers at other local dealers will arrive before any order you place. Believe it or not, the remaining 04s are better "bartering tools" then the 05's are because they are rare and have large rebates. It may actually be easier to get an 05 Stang from another dealer if we use an 04 to "swap". Even a new-gen Mustang fires up demand for the current car, some people are in situations that only a rebate will get them financed. Sales of the current car are soaring, more then 20% higher then last year's #s.

FrankBullitt05 5/21/04 08:38 PM

Hey Kevin,
I'm up in the Chicago area, and I'm trying to narrow down which dealership to order from, the three I have in mind are all Blue Oval's, do a fair amount sales(they are all on major streets, one on the local dealerstrip-Ogden Ave), and I was wondering if you have any tips on picking one the 'best' one to order from (I'm going in either tommorrow or Monday to order)


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