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3/27/07, 07:27 PM
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I wish my dealer did that. They entered a bogus VOC in CONCEPTS just to get the pricing and for me to sign off on the options. They went back later and rebuilt it based on the first "sign off" copy. That's where they goofed. The sales manager and salesman really should have double-checked it. I didn't notice until later that the VOC I signed off on was order number 9999, priority 99 and with Smith for the customer name.
3/27/07, 07:27 PM
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Just don't pick your interior color scheme based on the flash 'guide' on the website 
But yea you can bring it in with the codes and do it that way. On interior colors like red or dove that can be suspect, or something like the IUP colors, you have to make sure they have seen it in person on another car.
But yea you can bring it in with the codes and do it that way. On interior colors like red or dove that can be suspect, or something like the IUP colors, you have to make sure they have seen it in person on another car.
3/27/07, 07:30 PM
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I wouldn't expect any salesperson to be familiar with every vehicle's order guide. Go through the F-series guides sometime and see what salespeople are up against. Its not super-secret info anyway, but you need to talk to salespeople that have some months/years of tenure. 70% of the salespeople you talk to wont make it at the dealer for any length of time(at any dealer).
People who come in to order cars are one-car experts; just the ONE car THEY want. I am humble enough that if someone is ordering an 08 F250, they are going to be a bit more on the 8-ball. You can't know everything, but you should never assume anything as a salesperson. Particularly at Ford where everything changes constantly. Mastering the Ford incentives and vehicles is a college level education in product knowledge(actually its harder then any static college class I ever took). If you're a Ford Mr Wizard I will give you 15 seconds to tell me the brand and size spare used on a F350 XLT Sport 4x4 6.4 with the 20" wheel package...Or how bout an easy one, how much does an LCF tow with a 14' cube body? How many more cubic feet does an Expedition EL now have behind the third row seat? Can I get the Aluminum 18" wheels with an SEL AWD Edge or do I need to get an SEL plus, And can I get the panoramic roof with Cloth? Does the Hybrid Escape with nav loose the information display screen on the center of the dash??
People who come in to order cars are one-car experts; just the ONE car THEY want. I am humble enough that if someone is ordering an 08 F250, they are going to be a bit more on the 8-ball. You can't know everything, but you should never assume anything as a salesperson. Particularly at Ford where everything changes constantly. Mastering the Ford incentives and vehicles is a college level education in product knowledge(actually its harder then any static college class I ever took). If you're a Ford Mr Wizard I will give you 15 seconds to tell me the brand and size spare used on a F350 XLT Sport 4x4 6.4 with the 20" wheel package...Or how bout an easy one, how much does an LCF tow with a 14' cube body? How many more cubic feet does an Expedition EL now have behind the third row seat? Can I get the Aluminum 18" wheels with an SEL AWD Edge or do I need to get an SEL plus, And can I get the panoramic roof with Cloth? Does the Hybrid Escape with nav loose the information display screen on the center of the dash??
3/27/07, 07:30 PM
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I would also let them do it. You can't take the chance of missing out on the Redfire with Nav. I hope they are very careful with your center console and all the parts we know can scratch.
3/27/07, 07:34 PM
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I have no idea what can be so important that a manager didn't have time to do it with the customer, unless they don't have them properly trained and everything filters down to just the one guy they showed how to use the computer....But if they were already in concepts that possiblility is moot.
3/27/07, 07:46 PM
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I'd skip that dealer. We can talk about lame sales manager on another thread, god knows I've been through a few of them...
ANYHEW! CONGRATS TO BC/Hollywood_North ON THE NEW CAR AND HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WORKS OUT TOMORROW!
Heck I might even listen to his rants now that he will ACTUALLY OWN A MUSTANG!!
ANYHEW! CONGRATS TO BC/Hollywood_North ON THE NEW CAR AND HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WORKS OUT TOMORROW!
Heck I might even listen to his rants now that he will ACTUALLY OWN A MUSTANG!!
3/27/07, 10:04 PM
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Link please?
Yeah, some people really do prefer the plain black interior. Can't abide it myself. The porno red really "lifts things up."
The implication being...?
Cynicism becomes you.
Cynicism becomes you.
3/27/07, 10:06 PM
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Wow,
What a soap opera thread. As I read through, I was going to type, "that sucks, sorry man", but then the thread turned around and things look better. So I guess, congrats?
Anyway. Hope it all works out to your liking/satisfaction.
What a soap opera thread. As I read through, I was going to type, "that sucks, sorry man", but then the thread turned around and things look better. So I guess, congrats?
Anyway. Hope it all works out to your liking/satisfaction.
3/27/07, 10:06 PM
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This is a good thought.
When I ordered my 07, the salesman had to hand print an order form that was such a rudimentary document, it looked like something out of the 1940's. I ordered my vehicle fully equipped, so in fact, the salesman had to almost cram all of the information (codes) on the form.
Next, the document when to the sales manager who reviewed it, and had to approve it before they would take my deposit check.
Then it went to the "order guy" who I do not think was in everyday of the week. He had to then take the information off the form, and enter it into the Ford ordering system (computer system). He printed off a sheet - 2 pages if I remember - and my salesman reviewed it.
It really was 2 or 3 days before I was able to see a Ford computer system generated document that I could personally review for completeness.
My salesman -- who in fact was the dealership's Ebay guy because he was computer savy -- said the dealership would not allow him or any other salesman to enter orders into the system directly.
He also used his own email account for business and not a Ford.com or a dealership.com address.
It was a joke. They're in the dark ages.
When I ordered my 07, the salesman had to hand print an order form that was such a rudimentary document, it looked like something out of the 1940's. I ordered my vehicle fully equipped, so in fact, the salesman had to almost cram all of the information (codes) on the form.
Next, the document when to the sales manager who reviewed it, and had to approve it before they would take my deposit check.
Then it went to the "order guy" who I do not think was in everyday of the week. He had to then take the information off the form, and enter it into the Ford ordering system (computer system). He printed off a sheet - 2 pages if I remember - and my salesman reviewed it.
It really was 2 or 3 days before I was able to see a Ford computer system generated document that I could personally review for completeness.
My salesman -- who in fact was the dealership's Ebay guy because he was computer savy -- said the dealership would not allow him or any other salesman to enter orders into the system directly.
He also used his own email account for business and not a Ford.com or a dealership.com address.
It was a joke. They're in the dark ages.
3/27/07, 10:08 PM
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They're gonna swap the red interior bits into it tomorrow.
3/27/07, 10:10 PM
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There are a lot of people not getting the orientation of numbers in your dates 
You would think that the first date is obviously not the 31st month of the year and the rest would make sense...
You would think that the first date is obviously not the 31st month of the year and the rest would make sense...
3/27/07, 10:19 PM
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No one listens anyway.
When I was looking at the car today, though, I did notice an odd, faint crackling sound coming from behind the gauge cluster after turning on the lights. Even after turning them off, it would still crackle for a bit.
Oh, well, I ain't gonna worry about stuff like this unless it starts smoking or bursting into flame.
3/27/07, 10:27 PM
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Supper time more likely. 
I was back at the dealer tonight to have a closer look at the car, and play with the techno-gadgets. Pretty sweet overall. The Mobile Ease (despite its odd placement on the passenger side of the dash) seems to work quite well and integrates nicely into the NAV system (which comes up "phone" when using the Mobile Ease). The Mobile Ease fob is also back lit, which is awesome for night use. The satellite radio is alot cooler than I thought it would be. Pretty wicked being able to listen to BBC1 from anywhere in North America!
And I'm pleased to report that the iPod auxillary input on the NAV/stereo works brilliantly!
The combination of the NAV with the dark applique and the red interior and the solid aluminum shift ring with aluminum bezel looks really, really sharp, IMHO. I am very impressed with the visual presentation of the package I ordered.
The other manager who was in tonight reiterated that the NAV package probably won't be available on the '08 Stangs, as the supplier just doesn't have enough to cover the entire Ford model range.
I was back at the dealer tonight to have a closer look at the car, and play with the techno-gadgets. Pretty sweet overall. The Mobile Ease (despite its odd placement on the passenger side of the dash) seems to work quite well and integrates nicely into the NAV system (which comes up "phone" when using the Mobile Ease). The Mobile Ease fob is also back lit, which is awesome for night use. The satellite radio is alot cooler than I thought it would be. Pretty wicked being able to listen to BBC1 from anywhere in North America!
And I'm pleased to report that the iPod auxillary input on the NAV/stereo works brilliantly!
The combination of the NAV with the dark applique and the red interior and the solid aluminum shift ring with aluminum bezel looks really, really sharp, IMHO. I am very impressed with the visual presentation of the package I ordered.
The other manager who was in tonight reiterated that the NAV package probably won't be available on the '08 Stangs, as the supplier just doesn't have enough to cover the entire Ford model range.