2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old 11/15/04, 09:26 AM
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I was happy to see this.
http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101223
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Interesting...
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Intersting article..... I has been surfing eBay before I ordered mine, and I noticed that trend going on as well.
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Hmm... interesting, bad news for dealers...looks like people are researching before buying...
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Great. I saw only a couple of dealers trying this near me, and I told them that I woul never buy from them because of their policy of dealer mark-up.
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that's about what I was expecting. Especially from all those ebay auctions we were seeing in the begining
Old 11/15/04, 10:41 AM
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I hope it is only reflective of buyers education. It could also be the type of people that the car attracts; those that value both the performance of the car, and it's value. But traditionally, Ford will manufacture enough cars, eventually. So we know that the cars are coming. With some other cars, they are more capacity limited, so you have to take them at what they give them at. Ford isn't known for that. Just some thoughts...
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Comments on this website about price gouging by dealers and the persistance of buyers towards getting a fair price really confirm this trend. I remember the PT Cruiser and the Mazda Miata fanatics well, but lets face it, the Mustang is a great car, but it isn't an investment and as long as people stand their ground the prices will come down.
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Originally posted by lodom@November 15, 2004, 10:45 AM
it isn't an investment
I don't mean to be picky, but anything that I buy that will be resold in the future, I consider an investment. Especially if I am paying that kind of money.
Old 11/15/04, 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by freebass55+November 15, 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (freebass55 @ November 15, 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-lodom@November 15, 2004, 10:45 AM
it isn't an investment
I don't mean to be picky, but anything that I buy that will be resold in the future, I consider an investment. Especially if I am paying that kind of money.[/b][/quote]
Then it's a bad investment. It's going to depreciate 50% in 4 yrs.
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^^ Hopefully the public at large is savy to that. Especially with the "gouging" of the 350Z, S2000, Thunderbird, etc. I would think most of the people buying the '05 Stang are people "in the know" (internet) and know its true value.
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Originally posted by wrb+November 15, 2004, 11:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wrb @ November 15, 2004, 11:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by freebass55@November 15, 2004, 11:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-lodom
@November 15, 2004, 10:45 AM
it isn't an investment

I don't mean to be picky, but anything that I buy that will be resold in the future, I consider an investment. Especially if I am paying that kind of money.
Then it's a bad investment. It's going to depreciate 50% in 4 yrs. [/b][/quote]
If those are the numbers you want to use then yes it would be but, I wouldn't plan on selling one in 4 years.
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It's always an investment. Monetarily, no.

Desire. You want it.
Resource: You need it.
Requirement: You got to, got to have it.

So, you see, it's an investment in your self!

I'm teh sarmt.
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Pathetic Dealers only show their true colors when they mark up a nice product that they should be glad to have to sell. :nono:
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I think most people interested in buying a mustang make it a point to research it, you have to, think about the insurance alone.

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The ones that don't have boyfriends, sons or fathers who educate them.
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Originally posted by wrb+November 15, 2004, 12:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wrb @ November 15, 2004, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by freebass55@November 15, 2004, 11:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-lodom
@November 15, 2004, 10:45 AM
it isn't an investment

I don't mean to be picky, but anything that I buy that will be resold in the future, I consider an investment. Especially if I am paying that kind of money.
Then it's a bad investment. It's going to depreciate 50% in 4 yrs. [/b][/quote]
That is all I was saying. Cars wear out and are not a good financial investment, and it is your best interest to buy it as cheaply as possible. If you put 150k miles on it it wont be worth 15% of what you paid, unless it becomes rare, but most cars don't do this. Anybody who pays over sticker has lost at least that much and more as soon as they drive off the lot.
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Originally posted by lodom+November 15, 2004, 2:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lodom @ November 15, 2004, 2:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by wrb@November 15, 2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by freebass55@November 15, 2004, 11:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-lodom
@November 15, 2004, 10:45 AM
it isn't an investment

I don't mean to be picky, but anything that I buy that will be resold in the future, I consider an investment. Especially if I am paying that kind of money.

Then it's a bad investment. It's going to depreciate 50% in 4 yrs.
That is all I was saying. Cars wear out and are not a good financial investment, and it is your best interest to buy it as cheaply as possible. If you put 150k miles on it it wont be worth 15% of what you paid, unless it becomes rare, but most cars don't do this. Anybody who pays over sticker has lost at least that much and more as soon as they drive off the lot. [/b][/quote]
I think I was analyzing your comment too much. Good or bad it's still an investment. You still put money into it and will get something out of it.
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Originally posted by freebass55@November 15, 2004, 3:33 PM
I think I was analyzing your comment too much. Good or bad it's still an investment. You still put money into it and will get something out of it.
I disagree, other than a small number of colletor cars, motor vehicles are NOT investments.

Look up "invest" in your dictionary. Invest means to spend money with the expectation that you will ultimately make a profit. Investment is the act of or an item used with the goal of creating a profit.

They are capital expenditures. They are something you buy to get utility out of (transportation) and they are something that we all know will go DOWN in value as the asset is used and worn out and eventually will have to be replaced.

The only way you could possibly construe a vehicle to be an investment is if you use it in your business or to get you back and forth to your job. But even for that, a Mustang would not be a good investment as a much better investment for that purpose would be a Kia or a Hundai.
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Yeah, checked two dealers in my area and the cars were stickered at MSRP, but a guy who works for me was telling me his dad called a dealership and they had a GT a going for 3000 over invoice due to high demand.

Ding Dongs...

Like my pappy always said "I could sell 1 for a 100 or sell a 1000 for 10, which will get me more"
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Originally posted by bob@November 15, 2004, 6:43 PM

Like my pappy always said "I could sell 1 for a 100 or sell a 1000 for 10, which will get me more"
If your cost is $50 each, than 1 @ $100 will obviously get you more than than 1000 @ $10.


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