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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Everyone's favorite repair....

It's heater core time on my GSP!!! It's not that bad when you've done a hundred of them but still nothing to look forward to
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Ah yes my 4 days of hell, still have a few nuts and bolts left over from that job.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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so what's the best one to use? any particular brand? obviously stay away from cheap junk and guessing OEM, but, just asking anyway. lol, it would be cool if there was a tough "stacked plate" design that could fit in there...
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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If you want practice before you finish, you are more than welcome to try on my car.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:39 AM
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I sinceerly doubt the man needs or wants more practice lol

Have fun Paul
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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oh god, im having nightmares right now. i need a hug! i did the first one on my 86gt. i paid for someone to do it n my 92. as kelly clarkson sings "Never Again" haha, i just dont fit in tight places. bt it prob helps when the interior is completely out!
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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It was only about 4 hours start to finish and that included rebuilding the underdash wiring harness thanks to a previous owner that had no business touching anything electrical!

Here is a lesson to never forget....this previous owner installed a parts store core....NEVER...and I mean NEVER EVER buy a parts store heater core. The quality isn't there and the most I have ever seen one last is 1 year and have seen them fail as soon as 3 months. Here is a picture of the core that came out....the leak started due to a poorly soldered joint at the tube(see it pulled out in the 2nd pic).

ALWAYS buy a FORD heater core!!!!! People complain it's $30 more....well, is that $30 savings worth it when you have to go in and replace it again?!? I always tell people this and only a few listen....that is when I love saying "I told you so" when I hear it is leaking only a short time later.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by svopaul
It was only about 4 hours start to finish and that included rebuilding the underdash wiring harness thanks to a previous owner that had no business touching anything electrical!

Here is a lesson to never forget....this previous owner installed a parts store core....NEVER...and I mean NEVER EVER buy a parts store heater core. The quality isn't there and the most I have ever seen one last is 1 year and have seen them fail as soon as 3 months. Here is a picture of the core that came out....the leak started due to a poorly soldered joint at the tube(see it pulled out in the 2nd pic).

ALWAYS buy a FORD heater core!!!!! People complain it's $30 more....well, is that $30 savings worth it when you have to go in and replace it again?!? I always tell people this and only a few listen....that is when I love saying "I told you so" when I hear it is leaking only a short time later.

I've been lucky so far, I installed mine in October or November of '05 and its still leak free. Do dealerships still sell fox heater cores? I never recalled seeing a new Ford unit for sale, LRS has what they call "the good ones" but they don't mention Ford for sure.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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oh no'es not again...i hope i never ever have to do another heater core but doing it when it was 20* out didnt help..( i wanted heat for the next day lol)
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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I've been lucky so far, I installed mine in October or November of '05 and its still leak free. Do dealerships still sell fox heater cores? I never recalled seeing a new Ford unit for sale, LRS has what they call "the good ones" but they don't mention Ford for sure.

Yes, Ford does still sell them....Ford Part number E9LY-18476-A. The ones labeled "good ones" are the exact same ones sold by the auto parts store. It's all marketing hype to get the sale.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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I installed one in my '85 along with a new evaporator from the Zone. Still working good. Install date February 1997! I think the biggest thing is QCing the 'cheap' parts before installing them. I grab the tubes on the heater core in the parts store and try to twist them out and look for poor solder adherance. kennyg
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kennyg
I installed one in my '85 along with a new evaporator from the Zone. Still working good. Install date February 1997! I think the biggest thing is QCing the 'cheap' parts before installing them. I grab the tubes on the heater core in the parts store and try to twist them out and look for poor solder adherance. kennyg
That's a good practice but you are among the minority. Usage also plays a part....and often the factory restrictor is missing from the hose to the heater core and spirited driving can cause a core to experience high bursts of pressure which will find the weak spot. If the car doesn't get driven that often or never experiences a lot of spirited driving then the core is likely to last longer.
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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So I would be wise to make/buy a restrictor and pop it in the inlet hose going to the core?
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Oh my, yes Ive done 4 and the one in my 87 is going again, the tail signs of vapor on the windshield, so I bypassed it and flushed it out, put a little sealent just in the core and flushed it our and so far so good. I have sveral pieces of wood in my tool box just for the heater core!!!
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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So I would be wise to make/buy a restrictor and pop it in the inlet hose going to the core?
Yes, the 87-93 5.0 Mustangs had them originally. The other thing I have done on 2 of my cars was install a 7lb radiator cap which lowers the pressure in the system and helps save an older core.....
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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the way everyone is talking about replacing heater cores, I have a feeling I will be facing the same task in the future, hopefully later than sooner...
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