laserred38

Any word on whether or not this will fit our 5.0s? Any speculation on the specs when compared to say, the Boss 302 IM or CJ?

WhitePonyGT/CS

Rumor is the GT350 has different intake ports (shape and size) so no go. Ford did not want you 15 plus guys changing your intakes out. Lol.

AWmustang

Considering it is a completely different motor, not just a tuning or stroking of the GT motor, it should hardly be surprising that the intake wouldn't fit. That would be like the V6 guys complaining the GT intake didn't fit.

esfkotaro

^This.

Because honestly, the 5.2 FPC in the 350GT probably has more in common with a Ferrari V8 than the 5.0 Mustang GT motor.

laserred38

The motor is coyote based. It's not entirely unique, and from outside appearances, the upper IM looks very similar to the stock 11-15 GT intake, so I was just curious.

AWmustang

I was under the impression that it was originally going to be coyote based, but then that was scrapped. I appear to have been misinformed. If it truly is coyote based, then it would be reasonable to expect there was a possibility it would fit.

bob

The impression I get is coyote 1.5 - its coyote based - but just different enough that virtually nothing worthwhile will crossover.

Joeywhat

While I'm sure it's part of the modular family of engines, I doubt it shares too many parts. Modular means the tooling, not the engines.

bob

Sort of a distant cousin and constrained by the need to work on that same tooling.


What could have been if the coyote wasn't constrained by the bore centers on the older engines.


Ford did a really good job with the constraints they imposed on themselves and the coyote is a great engine but this thing would have been a monster if they could have based the engine around a 112mm bore center allowing much bigger bores in the range of 102mm to 105mm with a lot of metal between the walls to spare allowing much larger displacements limited only by deck height which would have been an easy change.


In such a scenario Ford could with say the Voodoo's 92mm stroke on a 105mm bore produce a 6.4 liter engine. Same deck height just a tad bit longer on the long axis of the block.


Power would improve across the board not only from the increase in displacement but the extra breathing afforded by the bigger bore (something Ford exploited by using a 94mm bore on the Voodoo).

Joeywhat

I don't disagree, however I'm sure the 350 would have likely never existed if that were the case. While I question whether Ford actually makes any money off any of the GT350s, I'm assuming they want to keep losses at a minimum if they are indeed losing money on them.

bob

They make money on the Shelby Mustangs at least ( don't know about the GT ) or else they are a non-starter and as long as they sell Ford will most likely keep on building them. Hamedi said as much about the GT500.

Too bad Ford doesn't have deep pockets like VAG, you would probably see some real crazy stuff cing out of FPG ( isn't that what it's called now Ford Performance Group???? )

Also to bad if the port spacing and shape are different, probably with a short runner intake like the CJ manifold and full exhaust the Voodor would probably hit 600 hp with just a few more RPM.

zincmach1

I'm not 100% sure but I remember this being answered by someone within Ford. I've been searching for it but keep coming up empty handed so I'm just going off memory. But that person (May have) said both the intake and heads would fit on the coyote. Of course you would need crossplane crankshaft camshafts, but it would work. It does make a lot of sense.

laserred38

Bringing this back up, since people are swapping the GT350 intake onto their S550 GTs and picking up 60whp. Ahem. Some of you can eat your crow now.

2k7gtcs

Tastes like chicken

laserred38

Blackened chicken?

15COPP

Fixin to get mine this coming week from JDM Engineering.

bob

How is the overall average power gain through the rev range?

laserred38

Check it out, though from what I can tell, the IM will only work on 2015+ GTs...

http://www.mustang6g.com/?p=8260

UOP Shadow

They are not picking up 60whp. I've seen the dynos of baseline & after install. After install, there is no noticeable increase in whp until the factory tune takes a dive @ 6500 rpm. The new intake keeps pulling to around 7300 rpm. The difference between the PEAK whp of these is less than 25whp. The 60 number that people keep throwing around is comparing the factory setup to the intake @ 7300 rpm, WELL AFTER the factory tune shuts down & the driver would have shifted.