Anyone else replacing their original 2005 with a 2015?
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Anyone else replacing their original 2005 with a 2015?
I'm one of the guys who ordered a 2005, basically sight unseen, when the S197 first came out. It was my 3rd Mustang GT, after a red 1987 and a red 1995.
Now it seems like Deja Vu all over again. When I first saw pictures of the S197 on the Internet, I wasn't sure I liked the design. Same thing with the reveal of the 2015 in December. I don't love that the 2015 looks more like my 1995 than the 2005, at least it looks that way to me.
But, after months of looking at Internet pictures of the S197 it started to grow on me. And then seeing it in person totally changed my opinion. Likewise, the 2015 design is starting to grow on me the more I look at the pictures. And I'm guessing when I see it in person it's going to knock me out.
Anyway, I've had the 2005 for almost 9 years now and still love it. 75,000 miles and it's never been back to the dealer. No problems ever, and it's been both a daily driver and a track day car. I seriously considered a new one when Ford went back to the 5.0. A couple years ago I even talked to a salesman at the local dealership, and they ended up ordering a white GT manual with Brembos and red leather because I said that was the car I was thinking about, even though I insisted I wasn't ready to order one. When the car came in it was gorgeous and I was definitely tempted, but just could not justify $35K when there was nothing wrong with mine, and there just wasn't enough of a difference in the cars.
But with the 2015 total makeover, I'm ready and excited again. It'll be almost a whole year to wait, but I'm already constantly thinking about it - going back and forth with colors and options.
Who else is looking forward to trading their beloved 2005 for a 2015?
Now it seems like Deja Vu all over again. When I first saw pictures of the S197 on the Internet, I wasn't sure I liked the design. Same thing with the reveal of the 2015 in December. I don't love that the 2015 looks more like my 1995 than the 2005, at least it looks that way to me.
But, after months of looking at Internet pictures of the S197 it started to grow on me. And then seeing it in person totally changed my opinion. Likewise, the 2015 design is starting to grow on me the more I look at the pictures. And I'm guessing when I see it in person it's going to knock me out.
Anyway, I've had the 2005 for almost 9 years now and still love it. 75,000 miles and it's never been back to the dealer. No problems ever, and it's been both a daily driver and a track day car. I seriously considered a new one when Ford went back to the 5.0. A couple years ago I even talked to a salesman at the local dealership, and they ended up ordering a white GT manual with Brembos and red leather because I said that was the car I was thinking about, even though I insisted I wasn't ready to order one. When the car came in it was gorgeous and I was definitely tempted, but just could not justify $35K when there was nothing wrong with mine, and there just wasn't enough of a difference in the cars.
But with the 2015 total makeover, I'm ready and excited again. It'll be almost a whole year to wait, but I'm already constantly thinking about it - going back and forth with colors and options.
Who else is looking forward to trading their beloved 2005 for a 2015?
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Let the fanatics get the first year so they can pay the most for it. The least rebates and most MSRP because its new and all the hype. The best deals will not be the 2015. Hold out till 2016 or 17 and the deals will be rolling in. Rebates will be in full effect by then. The hype will have slowed down some back to normal levels. More talk of the SVT and Mach 1 models will gain speed and focus more on that.
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Isn't it a bit odd the 2015 mustang v6 model will have 5 less hp and 10 less torque compared to the 11 to 14 models. The v6 is actually loosing power. I find that very strange. You would think the new v6 would be the same power or a few higher. Screwy.
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Let the fanatics get the first year so they can pay the most for it. The least rebates and most MSRP because its new and all the hype. The best deals will not be the 2015. Hold out till 2016 or 17 and the deals will be rolling in. Rebates will be in full effect by then. The hype will have slowed down some back to normal levels. More talk of the SVT and Mach 1 models will gain speed and focus more on that.
No doubt, everything you say is true.
I just don't want to wait. I don't regret paying MSRP for my 05 for one second.
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First, this thread was really aimed at the folks who bought an '05 model new and still have it. We weren't afraid of a new model year, or paying close to MSRP for what we wanted.
Second, no one can tell the future. Will there be huge discounts on the 2016? I don't know that any more than you do. Would you have to wait until 2017 to get thousands off the MSRP? Maybe. And will the MSRP increase each year?
Again, you list very good reasons why many people will not rush to buy any car that is a new design and heavily hyped. The 2014 Corvette forums are full of the same thing.
On the other hand, does anyone doubt that the 2015 Mustang will outsell the 2011-14 Mustangs?
Second, no one can tell the future. Will there be huge discounts on the 2016? I don't know that any more than you do. Would you have to wait until 2017 to get thousands off the MSRP? Maybe. And will the MSRP increase each year?
Again, you list very good reasons why many people will not rush to buy any car that is a new design and heavily hyped. The 2014 Corvette forums are full of the same thing.
On the other hand, does anyone doubt that the 2015 Mustang will outsell the 2011-14 Mustangs?
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First, this thread was really aimed at the folks who bought an '05 model new and still have it. We weren't afraid of a new model year, or paying close to MSRP for what we wanted.
Second, no one can tell the future. Will there be huge discounts on the 2016? I don't know that any more than you do. Would you have to wait until 2017 to get thousands off the MSRP? Maybe. And will the MSRP increase each year?
Again, you list very good reasons why many people will not rush to buy any car that is a new design and heavily hyped. The 2014 Corvette forums are full of the same thing.
On the other hand, does anyone doubt that the 2015 Mustang will outsell the 2011-14 Mustangs?
Second, no one can tell the future. Will there be huge discounts on the 2016? I don't know that any more than you do. Would you have to wait until 2017 to get thousands off the MSRP? Maybe. And will the MSRP increase each year?
Again, you list very good reasons why many people will not rush to buy any car that is a new design and heavily hyped. The 2014 Corvette forums are full of the same thing.
On the other hand, does anyone doubt that the 2015 Mustang will outsell the 2011-14 Mustangs?
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It's like McDonald's small fries having more in them than supersize fries. Not that I eat that crap. Just sayin.
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Replacing? That'd be tough as I love my '05 and she's part of the family..............but I love the look of the '15, too, so really want to add it to the stable.
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I don't think you have to worry as much about buying the first model year since the engines and transmissions are mostly carry covers with improvements. The 2.3 is new so that would be the only one I'd be hesitant about.
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I think your making a big mistake. The 2005 is a classic design,while the 2015 is just another generic (accord,genesis,infiniti q50-60,).At the very least you should wait a year or so,as prices are bound to fall once this poor design proves to be a poor seller!
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Totally agree. The V6 and V8 have the same engines and transmissions for the past 4 models. No concerns there. The 4 banger, that's completely new. That's a craps shoot on it being so new what issues the engine will first encounter.
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To each his own!
I love my 300 hp 2005, and made a few minor modifications, but it has stayed almost completely stock. I am about to hit 22,000 miles.
I drive it to and from work, and short trips on the weekends. I don't need 500hp, nor do I need pure launch or wheel shredding stability in the rear axle, so the new model seems almost designed for what I want. My first car was a 69 Cougar. I was always rolling around with the local Mustangers because parts were interchangeable, and I wasn't a bow-tie dork. We did have a couple Mopar guys as well, but for some reason they really hated Chevys. Who knows, but my point in bringing that up, is that when the 05 came out I clearly recognized so many things about the car, down to the font on the speedo and tach.
Today, I'm ready to move a bit more modern. The new body is pretty, and does still look like a Mustang to me, so I'm good with it. The IRS, hopefully much more comfortable and well appointed interior, and a turbo 4 sound like a ton of fun. I missed out on the I4 Turbo SVO cars when they came out, and don't plan to make that mistake again.
I drive it to and from work, and short trips on the weekends. I don't need 500hp, nor do I need pure launch or wheel shredding stability in the rear axle, so the new model seems almost designed for what I want. My first car was a 69 Cougar. I was always rolling around with the local Mustangers because parts were interchangeable, and I wasn't a bow-tie dork. We did have a couple Mopar guys as well, but for some reason they really hated Chevys. Who knows, but my point in bringing that up, is that when the 05 came out I clearly recognized so many things about the car, down to the font on the speedo and tach.
Today, I'm ready to move a bit more modern. The new body is pretty, and does still look like a Mustang to me, so I'm good with it. The IRS, hopefully much more comfortable and well appointed interior, and a turbo 4 sound like a ton of fun. I missed out on the I4 Turbo SVO cars when they came out, and don't plan to make that mistake again.
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Will that still be for 2015, that remains to be seen. How much will it cost the customer to buy one?
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So I'm gonna see what the '15 looks like in person and hopefully the vert will look good because I've always wanted a GT vert. When the 5.0 came back it's been tempting but I think I'm glad I waited for the '15.
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Heck, I've just got a brand new 2014 (got it end of October), and I'm feeling the pull. I can resist it for a few years, but I predict starting around 2017, it will grow larger and larger in my mind... pulling me towards the new Mustang like gravity.
That'll be my excuse for jumping from a v6 to a v8 sometime before the start of the 3rd decade of the millennia.
That'll be my excuse for jumping from a v6 to a v8 sometime before the start of the 3rd decade of the millennia.
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Yeah, Im felling like you all. I bought my 05 in 04, it is my first new car. I always bought my wife the new cars so her and the kids would be safe , while I drove POS junk. that never had AC or a wroking radio most of the time.
So when I finally was able to buy myself a new car, I looked at a Nissan 350Z, and Mazda RX-8, was really tempted by the RX-8, but one drive in the 05 Mustang, and it was love at first drive. I told myself, I would test drive he Mustang, then go back and drive the RX-8 to compare, but never did.
I got mine at X-plan pricing, which is basicly employee price, it was hard to find a dealer that would do that for me, and the saleman later told me he caught hell for it , but I picked her up Dec, she was my christmas gift. I have 98,000 miles on it ,it is my daily driver. She has some road nicks and such, but she is still as exciting to drive as when I first picked it up. 400+ horsepower sounds exciting for sure , but I get like 19-20 mpg with regular fuel and 300 hp, I know the new ones wont get that kind of gas milage around town. I have had to makes a few repairs, here and there, but nothing that bothers me.
Looking at the new 2015 car, it looks awsome to me, I like it so much better than the previous model. And the thought of keyless entry and all the cool new gadgets , my car could never have .. wow!!! It sure is tempting to think of trading in, but Ill keep mine for life, my son will get it when Im gone. I still love to look at my 05 from the rear, it just looks fast sitting there, and reminds me of the 68 Mustang I want to buy and build when I retire in a few years.
And who knows , mayber Ill work a year or two longer and buy myself a new Mustang for a retierment gift to park next to my 05 and 68, in a new shop Ill build, now wouldnt that be awsome???
So when I finally was able to buy myself a new car, I looked at a Nissan 350Z, and Mazda RX-8, was really tempted by the RX-8, but one drive in the 05 Mustang, and it was love at first drive. I told myself, I would test drive he Mustang, then go back and drive the RX-8 to compare, but never did.
I got mine at X-plan pricing, which is basicly employee price, it was hard to find a dealer that would do that for me, and the saleman later told me he caught hell for it , but I picked her up Dec, she was my christmas gift. I have 98,000 miles on it ,it is my daily driver. She has some road nicks and such, but she is still as exciting to drive as when I first picked it up. 400+ horsepower sounds exciting for sure , but I get like 19-20 mpg with regular fuel and 300 hp, I know the new ones wont get that kind of gas milage around town. I have had to makes a few repairs, here and there, but nothing that bothers me.
Looking at the new 2015 car, it looks awsome to me, I like it so much better than the previous model. And the thought of keyless entry and all the cool new gadgets , my car could never have .. wow!!! It sure is tempting to think of trading in, but Ill keep mine for life, my son will get it when Im gone. I still love to look at my 05 from the rear, it just looks fast sitting there, and reminds me of the 68 Mustang I want to buy and build when I retire in a few years.
And who knows , mayber Ill work a year or two longer and buy myself a new Mustang for a retierment gift to park next to my 05 and 68, in a new shop Ill build, now wouldnt that be awsome???
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