Adding the OEM nav
#621
Mach 1 Member
Ok, so I have the climate harness completely installed. The A/C still does not work properly. I can hear everything working, but the cold is non existent. I was told by a ford technician that the screen has to be functioning for the AC to work properly. Anyone know if that's the case? I did check the pins in the pack of the screen and the nav unit and none of the pins are bent. I'm guessing a bad screen.
However, with that being said, what is the extra white plug in the back of the nav unit? I have something plugged into everything except that. I have an extra white plug, but it does not fit into the female end on the nav unit. The other end of it appears to plug into the screen.
Two plugs.
Plug does not fit in back of nav unit.
The plug fits into the back of the screen
However, with that being said, what is the extra white plug in the back of the nav unit? I have something plugged into everything except that. I have an extra white plug, but it does not fit into the female end on the nav unit. The other end of it appears to plug into the screen.
Two plugs.
Plug does not fit in back of nav unit.
The plug fits into the back of the screen
LRXiiON
#622
Legacy TMS Member
Thread Starter
OK, I went back to my car and looked to see what I did.
In the picture, you will see a plug. It goes into the blend door motor. There is only one blend door motor in yours and it is on the passenger side. Both blend doors are controlled from the passenger side motor. In dual zone, there is a motor on the driver's side, which you don't have. In order to get the blend door to operate properly, the driver's side on the new harness needs to plug into the passenger side on the old climate unit.
Did I remember that right Lexiion?
In the picture, you will see a plug. It goes into the blend door motor. There is only one blend door motor in yours and it is on the passenger side. Both blend doors are controlled from the passenger side motor. In dual zone, there is a motor on the driver's side, which you don't have. In order to get the blend door to operate properly, the driver's side on the new harness needs to plug into the passenger side on the old climate unit.
Did I remember that right Lexiion?
Last edited by jim010; 8/31/15 at 07:09 PM.
#623
Thank you Lexiion and Jim! I do have the correct plug into the blend door and have the extra plug that would be going to the drivers side, left unplugged. (if I had the dual climate system). I also hear the blend doors operating properly.
Here's a question...Does running the AC without the evaporator core plugged in, drain the Freon?
"The climate works without the screen. When I sent my unit to 4dtech a/c and heating still worked. The white connectors are essential fir the screen to work. Matt has a spare cable.
LRXiiON "
So I do have the white cable plugged into the back of the screen. But the white cable that looks like it should plug into the ACM, does not fit. Are you saying that they put the wrong cable on my harness? If that's the case, please let Matt know I am very interested.
Again, the white cable that I have has the correct female end on the monitor, but the ACM has a different female connection that the plug won't fit.
Here's a question...Does running the AC without the evaporator core plugged in, drain the Freon?
"The climate works without the screen. When I sent my unit to 4dtech a/c and heating still worked. The white connectors are essential fir the screen to work. Matt has a spare cable.
LRXiiON "
So I do have the white cable plugged into the back of the screen. But the white cable that looks like it should plug into the ACM, does not fit. Are you saying that they put the wrong cable on my harness? If that's the case, please let Matt know I am very interested.
Again, the white cable that I have has the correct female end on the monitor, but the ACM has a different female connection that the plug won't fit.
#624
It might just be the picture, but the ACM plug that isn't fitting looks like it might be broken. Can you get a closer, clearer picture of it?
EDIT: Actually, nevermind, I looked at it closer and I believe it is fine. I am just misremembering what it looked like.
EDIT: Actually, nevermind, I looked at it closer and I believe it is fine. I am just misremembering what it looked like.
Last edited by forceflow2; 9/1/15 at 11:41 AM.
#625
Legacy TMS Member
Thread Starter
If it is all plugged in properly (I assume you checked it over a couple times), you should only have that 1 extra plug for the driver's blend door that is left unused. Everything else from the climate harness should be plugged in. If that is the case and it is not working, then I am out of ideas, unless you need the screen plugged in as well for it to work right.
#626
Thanks guys. Yeah, Lexiion said the ac should work without the monitor. Not sure what is going on. You are correct that I only have one unused plug from the new climate harness.
Reading back through this post, I realized I may have ordered the wrong climate control module. I bought the harness with heated seats (plan to add them next) and wanted to be able to use the factory on/off buttons on the dash. Plan is to tap into the wire to power aftermarket seat warmers, but that's a different topic. I noticed that the lights don't light up when I push the heated seat button. I assume they would light up even without the seat pads installed.
I doubt that's why my ac is not working, but just something else to add to the mix.
Reading back through this post, I realized I may have ordered the wrong climate control module. I bought the harness with heated seats (plan to add them next) and wanted to be able to use the factory on/off buttons on the dash. Plan is to tap into the wire to power aftermarket seat warmers, but that's a different topic. I noticed that the lights don't light up when I push the heated seat button. I assume they would light up even without the seat pads installed.
I doubt that's why my ac is not working, but just something else to add to the mix.
#627
Mach 1 Member
I have the module with heated seats too and no pads. Other than a code in ids, it doesn't affect operation.
If you removed the heater core, then your freon is gone and with that your ability to cool.
LEXiiON
If you removed the heater core, then your freon is gone and with that your ability to cool.
LEXiiON
#629
#631
Guess it's technically called AppLink, but the actually voice command for Sync is "Mobile Apps."
https://owner.ford.com/how-tos/sync-...-overview.html
According to that page the 2012 has it as well, but I've never actually found anyone that confirmed it does, only Ford announcing that they were planning on adding it, but never found anywhere that says they actually did. Not to mention I know there is at least one app (Amazon Music) that has it integrated that isn't listed on the app catalog page, so I don't know how accurate it is overall.
https://owner.ford.com/how-tos/sync-...-overview.html
According to that page the 2012 has it as well, but I've never actually found anyone that confirmed it does, only Ford announcing that they were planning on adding it, but never found anywhere that says they actually did. Not to mention I know there is at least one app (Amazon Music) that has it integrated that isn't listed on the app catalog page, so I don't know how accurate it is overall.
#632
I got the monitor working! Stupid Stupid Stupid...If you look back at the picture of the back of my ACM, the male adapter of the wire was still clipped in. When the guy at the junk yard took it out, he must have just yanked the wire and broke it in there. That's why mine did not fit in.
Last edited by GT227; 9/3/15 at 07:24 PM.
#633
Also, I just realized the nav says no gps. I did install the gps splitter...pink and brown ends into back of ACM and then brown into brown that goes to the gps antenna on the trunk. Is there something else?
#634
I got the monitor working! Stupid Stupid Stupid...If you look back at the picture of the back of my ACM, the male adapter of the wire was still clipped in. When the guy at the junk yard took it out, he must have just yanked the wire and broke it in there. That's why mine did not fit in.
#635
Yup, it stays like that the entire time. I checked the satellite radio and that also says no signal. No clock either, so it's definitely the satellite antenna not reaching the unit. My satellite radio did work before. Again, the single brown plug on the gps splitter goes into the brown socket that is next to where the am/fm radio antenna is plugged in?
#636
Labor Day update...
So I decided to put my old climate control harness in to see if they AC would work backwards. It did. Set the temp to 90 and it was blowing out ice cold air. Going to experiment a little more on that, but at least I narrowed it down to the harness.
As for the GPS, I also decided to put my old satellite radio gps antenna harness back in just to see if the satellite radio would work. It did. Obviously, the gps navigation did not work. So now, my question is...did I get a bad gps splitter harness?
The part number I ordered was AR3Z-10E928-A (which is now $154 at Tousley) http://parts.autonationfordwhitebear...=antenna-cable
However, the part I received is AR3T-19C181-AC. It certainly looks the same and everything clicks in properly, but does not work.
So I decided to put my old climate control harness in to see if they AC would work backwards. It did. Set the temp to 90 and it was blowing out ice cold air. Going to experiment a little more on that, but at least I narrowed it down to the harness.
As for the GPS, I also decided to put my old satellite radio gps antenna harness back in just to see if the satellite radio would work. It did. Obviously, the gps navigation did not work. So now, my question is...did I get a bad gps splitter harness?
The part number I ordered was AR3Z-10E928-A (which is now $154 at Tousley) http://parts.autonationfordwhitebear...=antenna-cable
However, the part I received is AR3T-19C181-AC. It certainly looks the same and everything clicks in properly, but does not work.
#637
Labor Day update...
So I decided to put my old climate control harness in to see if they AC would work backwards. It did. Set the temp to 90 and it was blowing out ice cold air. Going to experiment a little more on that, but at least I narrowed it down to the harness.
As for the GPS, I also decided to put my old satellite radio gps antenna harness back in just to see if the satellite radio would work. It did. Obviously, the gps navigation did not work. So now, my question is...did I get a bad gps splitter harness?
The part number I ordered was AR3Z-10E928-A (which is now $154 at Tousley) http://parts.autonationfordwhitebear...=antenna-cable
However, the part I received is AR3T-19C181-AC. It certainly looks the same and everything clicks in properly, but does not work.
So I decided to put my old climate control harness in to see if they AC would work backwards. It did. Set the temp to 90 and it was blowing out ice cold air. Going to experiment a little more on that, but at least I narrowed it down to the harness.
As for the GPS, I also decided to put my old satellite radio gps antenna harness back in just to see if the satellite radio would work. It did. Obviously, the gps navigation did not work. So now, my question is...did I get a bad gps splitter harness?
The part number I ordered was AR3Z-10E928-A (which is now $154 at Tousley) http://parts.autonationfordwhitebear...=antenna-cable
However, the part I received is AR3T-19C181-AC. It certainly looks the same and everything clicks in properly, but does not work.
https://themustangsource.com/forums/...16988/index10/
Two of the plugs should go into the ACM (the only places they fit) and one should go into the brown connector in the passenger footwell area. (Pretty sure again the only thing it'll fit into. Trying to do this from memory, but pretty sure that's where it is at.)
#638
Thanks Forceflow. yeah, I've read his install many times. I ordered the gps antenna that 4dtech sells for the gps. Since my old sirius satellite antenna harness works, I'm going to try a separate antenna for the gps. I know someone else tried this too.
The only difference I can see is that my old antenna with the brown fakra connection has a red strip on it. The gps splitter that I ordered has a purple strip on it.
The only difference I can see is that my old antenna with the brown fakra connection has a red strip on it. The gps splitter that I ordered has a purple strip on it.
#640
Legacy TMS Member
Thread Starter
Took my interior apart today. Added the dual climate zone, and will be adding paddles and keyless ignition.
I had to change out the body harness, as the wiring I did, something is not quite right (I didn't solder, but used connectors, shrink tubes etc...)
Changing the body harness is loads of fun. Everybody that has a S197 should try this once just for giggles!
I had to change out the body harness, as the wiring I did, something is not quite right (I didn't solder, but used connectors, shrink tubes etc...)
Changing the body harness is loads of fun. Everybody that has a S197 should try this once just for giggles!