Wellp... S550 reviews are in. How do you feel about your S197 now?
9/29/14, 04:36 PM
#101
After reading all of the reviews and looking at the pictures, I'm happy I got a 14. I think it's a better looking car and since the 15 is heavier, the extra horsepower of the car is a wash. I think the interior of the new car is too busy for my taste and like the simpler appearance of the 14. While I'm sure the new IRS is nice, I'm fine with the SRA on my 14. It rides good enough for me and it's a simpler design with less things to go wrong with it.
And like one of the other poster said, if I was buying a new car right now, it would probably be a new sublime Challenger scat-pack.
Wayne
And like one of the other poster said, if I was buying a new car right now, it would probably be a new sublime Challenger scat-pack.
Wayne
10/2/14, 07:33 AM
#102
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I'm really liking my S197 since I got $8500 off MSRP and all the S550 guys are paying premiums for the new car.
I was wondering if the new car would be faster, but I ran my stone stock 5.0 Automatic car down the 1/4 mile and turned a 12.9@109.8 so the S197 is just as fast if not faster than the s550 in a straight line! I'm waiting to see what the new Automatic cars will run.
I think the new car will be refined and more comfortable ride on choppy roads, but I'm still not sold on the styling,....and price! It would have been difficult to spend $45k on a Mustang. The rebates/discounts sold me on S197!
I was wondering if the new car would be faster, but I ran my stone stock 5.0 Automatic car down the 1/4 mile and turned a 12.9@109.8 so the S197 is just as fast if not faster than the s550 in a straight line! I'm waiting to see what the new Automatic cars will run.
I think the new car will be refined and more comfortable ride on choppy roads, but I'm still not sold on the styling,....and price! It would have been difficult to spend $45k on a Mustang. The rebates/discounts sold me on S197!
I am so happy I got my 2014 instead of the 2015. The 2015 doesn't have the styling that I like compared to mine and even though I got the v6, I am still faster than the ecoboost mustang which is sad.
Ford could have done wonders with the 3.7L but chose to use their ecoboost and from the reviews, it didn't get them anywhere. I personally would rather say I have a v6 than a turbo 4. The v6 loves to rev and it is a lot of fun doing so. The turbo 4 is said not to like to rev and power falls off. That's not fun when taking a corner in a low gear and high rpms as you pull out of the apex. I don't know but even the economy on the ecoboost is marginally better maybe. We shall see how real world tests go.
I want to see them review a 2014 vs a 2015 and see where the improvements really are. The mustang name will never die but this seemed like a serious missed opportunity for Ford. I want to hear that the handling of the new IRS is amazing and that it handles like a world class car... kind of like they did when describing the handling of the 2005 mustang. Read the reviews of the 2005 mustang compared to the 2015 and you can tell the reviewer of the 2015 was disappointed.
Ford could have done wonders with the 3.7L but chose to use their ecoboost and from the reviews, it didn't get them anywhere. I personally would rather say I have a v6 than a turbo 4. The v6 loves to rev and it is a lot of fun doing so. The turbo 4 is said not to like to rev and power falls off. That's not fun when taking a corner in a low gear and high rpms as you pull out of the apex. I don't know but even the economy on the ecoboost is marginally better maybe. We shall see how real world tests go.
I want to see them review a 2014 vs a 2015 and see where the improvements really are. The mustang name will never die but this seemed like a serious missed opportunity for Ford. I want to hear that the handling of the new IRS is amazing and that it handles like a world class car... kind of like they did when describing the handling of the 2005 mustang. Read the reviews of the 2005 mustang compared to the 2015 and you can tell the reviewer of the 2015 was disappointed.
I cant tell you how much I agree with these guys
10/2/14, 08:17 AM
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.... I want to hear that the handling of the new IRS is amazing and that it handles like a world class car... kind of like they did when describing the handling of the 2005 mustang. Read the reviews of the 2005 mustang compared to the 2015 and you can tell the reviewer of the 2015 was disappointed.
10/2/14, 09:18 AM
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In defense of the 2015, the 2005 Mustang was such a revelation compared to the SN95s. As someone who admired Mustangs from afar but had no particular lust for them, and no offense to the fans of the 94-04 models, but that body style aged pretty quickly. It got caught up in the same tired old "meh" that saw the Camaro and Firebird get the ax. The SN197 hit the big nostalgia wave. That affects the average person a lot more than talk of IRS.
But upon reviews of the mustang after the new Camaro hit the scene, reviewers were like "if only it had an IRS setup" etc. You could not get thru a review without mention of how though Ford is doing an awesome job with the SRA, the mustang needs an IRS setup. With this being the 50th anniversary of one of the oldest nameplates... there should be more of a revelation than the SN197 ever was. There is still a lot riding on how the 2015 mustang does. Chevy was able to put an awesome machine out with the Z28 that beat the likes of Porsche and GT-R. The boss while being the best handling mustang to date cannot make a similar claim. Ford has the ingredients in front of them. It is up to the rumored GT350 to show exactly what this new chassis is made of.
On a different note... The engine compartment of the new 5.0 is just plain ugly. The 2011-2014 5.0 was a jewel to look at. It was by far one of the prettiest engine bays I have ever seen. I don't even want to know what the others look like haha.
10/2/14, 09:53 AM
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. I rolled in to an Arco this morning after work and went in too buy a sixer of Fat tire, snacks and all that healthy stuff. When i came out,,,,,,there was atleast 3 people that were standing around Eleanor. One guy said holy chit nice car man!! I thanked him and promptly left some Hankook on the ground as my GT500 axle backs/res delete filled the air with the sweet sound of "America" i love my Mustang and im soooo glad i got her for 28k out the door! When i look at my baby i love every single angle of her "Eleanor " to me looks like a true Mustang"! This new Stang looks like a Fusion. The switches at the bottom of the console look like "RICE" seriously Ford, wtf? Those look stoopid! And the cup holders, really? I like how mine closes so my arm can rest on it, thank you! Im glad that people will fork over $$$ for the new one as they are the reason the Mustang is 50yrs straight running! I like the Hennessy Mustang but thats about it!
10/2/14, 10:25 AM
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But upon reviews of the mustang after the new Camaro hit the scene, reviewers were like "if only it had an IRS setup" etc. You could not get thru a review without mention of how though Ford is doing an awesome job with the SRA, the mustang needs an IRS setup. With this being the 50th anniversary of one of the oldest nameplates... there should be more of a revelation than the SN197 ever was. There is still a lot riding on how the 2015 mustang does. Chevy was able to put an awesome machine out with the Z28 that beat the likes of Porsche and GT-R. The boss while being the best handling mustang to date cannot make a similar claim. Ford has the ingredients in front of them. It is up to the rumored GT350 to show exactly what this new chassis is made of.
On a different note... The engine compartment of the new 5.0 is just plain ugly. The 2011-2014 5.0 was a jewel to look at. It was by far one of the prettiest engine bays I have ever seen. I don't even want to know what the others look like haha.
On a different note... The engine compartment of the new 5.0 is just plain ugly. The 2011-2014 5.0 was a jewel to look at. It was by far one of the prettiest engine bays I have ever seen. I don't even want to know what the others look like haha.
I don't know...I know I was more in the Mustang/Camaro/Firebird young guy demo back then than I am now and I wouldn't have touched those overwrought turds. We obviously wouldn't say that about our SN197s now. And what you're saying about the IRS-reviewers at car mags. The same people that get worked up over Miatas. Look at the skipad numbers on the '15 and compare them to the '14. The IRS makes a difference there. In a straight line, it doesn't. There you're comparing the '14 Coyote to the '15 Coyote. It's a much more subtle difference between the two. What's going to sell this car to the public are it's more than refreshed looks. And remember, the z28 didn't come out as soon as the new Camaro debuted.
Don't get me wrong, I first posted in this thread proud I bought a '14. But I can't agree that the '15 is a total letdown. It's just the '14 is a tougher act to follow. I'm sure if Ford could have turned the '15 into a Vette with a backseat and sold it at a similar price point as what they did roll out, they would have.
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10/2/14, 10:41 AM
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. I rolled in to an Arco this morning after work and went in too buy a sixer of Fat tire, snacks and all that healthy stuff. When i came out,,,,,,there was atleast 3 people that were standing around Eleanor. One guy said holy chit nice car man!! I thanked him and promptly left some Hankook on the ground as my GT500 axle backs/res delete filled the air with the sweet sound of "America" i love my Mustang and im soooo glad i got her for 28k out the door! When i look at my baby i love every single angle of her "Eleanor " to me looks like a true Mustang"! This new Stang looks like a Fusion. The switches at the bottom of the console look like "RICE" seriously Ford, wtf? Those look stoopid! And the cup holders, really? I like how mine closes so my arm can rest on it, thank you! Im glad that people will fork over $$$ for the new one as they are the reason the Mustang is 50yrs straight running! I like the Hennessy Mustang but thats about it!
10/2/14, 10:55 AM
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10/2/14, 11:01 AM
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10/2/14, 11:07 AM
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10/2/14, 11:26 AM
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My favorite Mustang is "Eleanor" from Gone in 60sec. I think the S197's look just like Her! Yes Ford over did the Fusion look on the new Mustang lol;-)
10/2/14, 11:06 PM
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10/3/14, 09:41 AM
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I was looking at a profile shot of the new Mustang and my son walked in. When he saw it he said "what is that?" The new car just doesn't say "Mustang" like the S197 did when it was introduced.
I fear in Fords quest to build a world car they forgot to make it an American car.
I fear in Fords quest to build a world car they forgot to make it an American car.
10/3/14, 10:25 AM
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10/3/14, 01:49 PM
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I was looking at a profile shot of the new Mustang and my son walked in. When he saw it he said "what is that?" The new car just doesn't say "Mustang" like the S197 did when it was introduced.
I fear in Fords quest to build a world car they forgot to make it an American car.
I fear in Fords quest to build a world car they forgot to make it an American car.
