Engine noise update
8/13/14, 04:19 PM
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Engine noise update
So after it was decided by Ford that the noise was normal operation, I got check engine and oil light. It was getting cam sensor codes. The tech checked the plugs and cleared the codes. Engine light back on the next morning and oil light on again. The engine is also losing power. The tech has now found the engine has no oil pressure and metal in the oil. Ford wants oil pan dropped and everything visually inspected to find the problem. Everything pointing to engine replacement. I made it known that I will not drive it off the lot without a new engine. No getting the metal back out.
Anyone with the noise, be sure to check oil for metal and even drop your pan and inspect it.
Anyone with the noise, be sure to check oil for metal and even drop your pan and inspect it.
8/13/14, 04:26 PM
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So after it was decided by Ford that the noise was normal operation, I got check engine and oil light. It was getting cam sensor codes. The tech checked the plugs and cleared the codes. Engine light back on the next morning and oil light on again. The engine is also losing power. The tech has now found the engine has no oil pressure and metal in the oil. Ford wants oil pan dropped and everything visually inspected to find the problem. Everything pointing to engine replacement. I made it known that I will not drive it off the lot without a new engine. No getting the metal back out.
Anyone with the noise, be sure to check oil for metal and even drop your pan and inspect it.
Anyone with the noise, be sure to check oil for metal and even drop your pan and inspect it.
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8/14/14, 12:42 PM
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Just got a call from the dealer. Ford had the tech take the car for a road test with computer hooked up. The cam shaft froze up and blew the chain through the bottom of the block and out the oil pan. New engine will be here next week. Joy!
8/14/14, 01:15 PM
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If I were you I'd be inquiring if they can put a Ford Racing Aluminator with forged internals and just pay for the difference between it and factory Coyote
. That would be a Win-Win
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8/14/14, 01:21 PM
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Wasn't your engine all stock, OP? What was the cause of the initial failure?
8/14/14, 01:23 PM
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A coyote crate engine is about $7,200 MSRP, and the Aluminator is $8,800 MSRP. I'd definitely look into paying the difference if they approve it. It's got Mahle forged pistons and Manley H-beam forged rods, Boss 302 valve springs and ARP 2000 bolts.
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8/14/14, 01:33 PM
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Yep all stock. Won't know until the Ford engineers get it and break it down.
This would be great, but I wonder how that would affect the warranty. I'll ask when I go up in an hour to take some pics.
8/14/14, 01:56 PM
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Some times we have to make sure it is blown. LOL Makes sure the customer and the Dealer are happy.
8/14/14, 02:34 PM
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I work for a very large electronics manufacture. Some times Manufacturers reps, Field reps have to follow a protocol like you can not replace the motor unless it is blown. Some times we have to make sure it is blown. LOL Makes sure the customer and the Dealer are happy.
8/14/14, 02:37 PM
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I work for a very large electronics manufacture. Some times Manufacturers reps, Field reps have to follow a protocol like you can not replace the motor unless it is blown.
Some times we have to make sure it is blown. LOL Makes sure the customer and the Dealer are happy.
Some times we have to make sure it is blown. LOL Makes sure the customer and the Dealer are happy.
Sounds like the mechanic and Dealer didn't want to hear any crap from Corporate.
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8/14/14, 03:02 PM
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Aluminator replacement for difference in cost would be awesome.
OP, glad you are being taken care of. How many miles did you have? And you were ALL STOCK, and it still did this??? wow...
OP, glad you are being taken care of. How many miles did you have? And you were ALL STOCK, and it still did this??? wow...
8/15/14, 06:33 AM
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LOL .. sound was normal .. sometimes I have to really question the competence of these mechanics that work at dealerships. Jeese. Lucky you didn't have a Tune on your car or they would be trying to deny the claim I am sure.
8/15/14, 08:00 AM
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Car is 14 months old with ~6300 miles, all stock other than GT500 ABs.
No go on the aluminator.
The driver side cover was off and upper cam removed. No pic of the oil pan as they had a big pan under the car. I can't understand how this wouldn't be the cause of the noise.
Link to large pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xljajg3at5...ngine-full.jpg
No go on the aluminator.
The driver side cover was off and upper cam removed. No pic of the oil pan as they had a big pan under the car. I can't understand how this wouldn't be the cause of the noise.
Link to large pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xljajg3at5...ngine-full.jpg
8/15/14, 08:19 AM
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I wonder if you had a tune, you'd have to foot the bill regardless if that's what caused it. This just convinced me not to get one unless I get a blower w/warranty. You just never know. Hope everything works out and you're up and running again soon...